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Juice Box Stage 3 ($375) or active autowerke($1200) ?
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07-04-2009, 03:12 PM | #23 |
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i think this is AA... just out of curiosity what other cars/tunes does burger motorsports work with, i tried looking them up and i only found the n54 products please fill me in!?!?
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07-04-2009, 03:23 PM | #24 |
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How many platforms they work with has nothing to do with their success, as the N54 is a different animal than your typical engine. The fact that they specialize in BMWs is actually a + in my book. I would rather choose a Dinan, or BMS product than one of these tuner box companies advertising on Ebay that make products for many different car brands.
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07-04-2009, 03:53 PM | #25 |
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JB3 or PROcede.
I wouldn't consider AA for the price. |
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07-04-2009, 05:45 PM | #27 |
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JB3 pinout is under $400 and it's not much harder to install than the true PnP harness version of the JB3 (or procede I'd guess).
I started with the JB3 pinout which is easy to install but because the fuel pumps on the N54 seem to have as little as a 5k mi die&swap interval, you're better off picking a tune that's easy to remove (before service). The pinout isn't bad but I found it tends to scratch up the wires and may leave telltale signs you've played with the DME/ECU where the true PnP version would not. Both will wake up your car an unbelievable amount.
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07-04-2009, 09:31 PM | #29 | |
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You should research the different tunes and buy accordinly to your needs. I went with JB3 BTW because of bang for your buck, I didnt require "data logging". |
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07-04-2009, 09:34 PM | #30 |
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i'd go with a LET stage 2 flash tune + exhaust.
340 whp on a dyno dynamics and 370 torque.
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07-04-2009, 11:26 PM | #31 | |
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The BMS intake performs great and looks good. There are flashier intakes for many hundreds more but they yield no differences in performance. I have sold over 200 DCI in the last 6 months and everybody is very happy with them. The JB3/DCI combo also qualifies you for free shipping currently so its an even better deal Mike |
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07-05-2009, 12:16 AM | #32 |
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dont get me wrong the dyno results from jb3's make the product very tempting but active autowerke said it throws no codes ( i searched and couldnt find any, please post a link if you know of any aa problems) and said they have invisible flash, downpipes and oilcooler all on the way. i have no experience with these products or even turbo cars i just dont think aa is as bad as some people are making it sound.????
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07-05-2009, 03:28 AM | #33 |
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Than wait for AA to release all those products maybe in Q4 and be the first one to try them out. We will be waiting for a nice rewiew!
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07-05-2009, 02:59 PM | #34 |
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sounds good, whats Q4? and did you notice a big difference after the quaife LSD?
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07-05-2009, 05:52 PM | #37 | |
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AA has yet to take the first step: admit that they are 2 years behind everybody else. All their N54 products are invisible, except the flash after its launch in 2015. |
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07-05-2009, 06:10 PM | #38 | |
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seriously, i have been using BMS products since their first JB1 tune - i am on JB3 now - and i have never thrown a juicebox related code. ...only time i threw a code was when my methanol nozzle sprung a leak. AA has downpipes and oil cooler on the way ?? a bit late no ?? ... i have had my UR catless dps on for almost a year and a half now, and my VK oil cooler has been in my car since last summer. the AA tune to date has few users, but i will say that some like the AA intercooler. note that the aa ecu tune faded pretty fast once proceede and BMS juicebox products hit their stride well over a year ago. i am not trying to bash AA cause they have had many sucesses in OTHER platforms. but if you want power now or soon, i would not wait for them. my 2 cents
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07-05-2009, 06:18 PM | #39 |
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jb3 ftw. If you dont care about being a dyno queen and u want real world power. its the way to go
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