|
|
|
|
|
|
BMW Garage | BMW Meets | Register | Today's Posts | Search |
|
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum
>
N47 timing chain failure
|
|
01-14-2013, 06:07 PM | #1 |
Enlisted Member
5
Rep 30
Posts |
N47 timing chain failure
Hi guys the timing chain has broken at 120k on my 2008 320d!
I'm being quoted €4500 to fix it. It needs a new engine has anyone ever gotten anywhere going after BMW for this known fault? Any advice would be helpful! Thanks Chris |
01-15-2013, 01:44 AM | #2 |
Major General
1394
Rep 8,081
Posts |
If it has a full BMW service history you might get something because it should have been inspected at around 90000 and changed if required. No FBMWSH I'd say no chance.
__________________
Ian
Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2 |
Appreciate
0
|
01-15-2013, 06:14 AM | #3 |
Major General
886
Rep 9,097
Posts |
Did you get any warning signs / noises from the engine? Any rattles from the chain before it snap?
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play |
Appreciate
0
|
01-16-2013, 12:38 PM | #5 |
Banned
16
Rep 145
Posts |
In my sec car, 318d timing chain produces noise for about 50k mls now and still nothing Its rulette - since almost every n47 have timing chain noise even f30 and f10 i assume its just normal and need to live with it.
My friend replace engine for n47d20C from X1 20d after rearended ( engine with replace cost him about 2000pounds LOL ) but after 20k mls again timing chain noise. |
Appreciate
0
|
01-16-2013, 02:01 PM | #6 |
Lieutenant Colonel
468
Rep 1,535
Posts |
I've got the same ticking noise on mine, started at 50k miles.
I think a lot of 20d engines have it, just most people don't notice it as diesels are noisy beasts. I was told it would cost about £600 to replace the guide and chain. Decided to just risk it for now and not hold into the car past 80k. |
Appreciate
0
|
01-17-2013, 04:48 PM | #8 |
Banned
16
Rep 145
Posts |
Putting 6pot there will be pricy as hell, but consider putting 2.0bi-turbo from 1er or Alpina , you left everything stocku just replace engine module plus whole motor
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-17-2013, 05:09 PM | #9 |
Lieutenant
48
Rep 573
Posts |
So the 320i is being sold back to the dealer next week, i was looking for a 320d but now i do not think i want one of them either.
So much for BMW's quality motors!!! lol
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 04:37 AM | #10 |
Major General
886
Rep 9,097
Posts |
Go for 330D. They are bullet proof.
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play |
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 06:40 AM | #12 |
Second Lieutenant
41
Rep 255
Posts |
I bought a 520d with a ticking sound. Done 15k then did research and knew it was the timing chain. Took out a bmw warranty, 1month later walked into bmw and got it all done on warranty.
Dealer said they never heard of the problem before and never taken out a 5 series engine before!!!!! |
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 09:19 AM | #13 | |
Lieutenant
48
Rep 573
Posts |
Does the 330d not suffer with the timing chain issues? What problems does it have?
Is the 325d the same engine as the 330d but just detuned? Quote:
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 02:23 PM | #14 | |
Second Lieutenant
9
Rep 228
Posts |
Quote:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608330 The 330d engine change over from M57 to N57 is the at LCi introduction. For the 325d this differs. Lci 2008-2010 was still in majority the older M57 engine. 2010 saw the 325d got the N57. The N57 engine shares engine components with the N47 engine, including the chains (all 3 of them) and the guides. The official stance from BMW UK is that the guides only 'distort' and are not in actual fact wearing. I dont believe this for a slpit second. The rattle noise is due to slack in the chain and therefore must be rattling against something... i.e the guides! I had this lengthy argument as BMW UK refused to renew the engine oil as it wouldnt have been contaminated. Mine was noisy at sub 60K... and with the amount of noise it was making i wouldnt have thought the engine would have saw 100K.
__________________
E90 330d - N57 Prof Nav - 6FL - Visability Pack - Alpine Hi-Fi Upgrade - L7 Subwoofers - L7 rear mids + tweeters - 6FL |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 02:32 PM | #15 | |
Lieutenant
48
Rep 573
Posts |
Quote:
I need to regain my faith lol |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 02:51 PM | #16 |
Second Lieutenant
9
Rep 228
Posts |
I think i may have said in that thread that it's a bloody good job that it is such a great car to drive and the overall package/spec is so good, otherwise i would be really disappointed. And that it was in warranty! When I brought a 2.5yr old BMW, i didnt imagine for a minute that the engine and gearbox would need to come out of it for a timing chain repair!
I still love BMW products tho
__________________
E90 330d - N57 Prof Nav - 6FL - Visability Pack - Alpine Hi-Fi Upgrade - L7 Subwoofers - L7 rear mids + tweeters - 6FL |
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 05:10 PM | #18 |
Second Lieutenant
9
Rep 228
Posts |
Nope the M57N wouldnt be effected as its a completely different engine design. The M57 is essentially the same as that fitted right back to the E46 330d but with revised inlet/swirl flaps etc. It has a front mounted timing chain, whereas the N57 has rear mounted timing chains (inbetween engine and gearbox).
I guess the idea of this is that the timing chain should last the life-time of the engine so being in this location shouldnt be an issue... however as i found out should you need to do any work on the chains, its an engine and gearbox out job! M57 engine:- http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1131056579 N57 engine:- http://speedydaddy.com/wp-content/up...sel-Engine.jpg Note front location of the timing chain on the m57 and differences in engine cover.
__________________
E90 330d - N57 Prof Nav - 6FL - Visability Pack - Alpine Hi-Fi Upgrade - L7 Subwoofers - L7 rear mids + tweeters - 6FL |
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 05:14 PM | #19 | ||
Major General
886
Rep 9,097
Posts |
Quote:
I always thought that 330d was bullet proof but that was not the case. As shortie said, if you were to buy bmw 3 series, which one to buy?
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play |
||
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 05:19 PM | #20 | ||
Major General
886
Rep 9,097
Posts |
Quote:
I have been v lucky as my 320i has developed only one fault. And that was a sensor. Other than that, I have changed few O rings,CCV and coolant for maintenance purposes. I thought to buy 330d at some stage but clearly that is not as good as I thought. 335d comes with its own issues....
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play |
||
Appreciate
0
|
01-18-2013, 07:47 PM | #22 | |
Lieutenant
48
Rep 573
Posts |
Quote:
Knowing all i do now, i am not sure if when spending my money, it is wise to stand by BMW???????????????????
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
Bookmarks |
|
|