Significant Progress on Wagner FMIC

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-03-2012, 07:45 AM

BTW both sites are INOPERABLE!!!!

anielsen71 · 10-03-2012, 09:38 AM

@Puerto
Hmm...I'l write Rolf and tell him there some problems with their homepage.

anielsen71 · 10-03-2012, 09:56 AM

Just got word back that a new website is on the way.....
It will soon be available at www.promotecmotor.co.za

DieselDiner · 10-03-2012, 10:24 AM

If I may make a suggestion, it might be a good idea to start a new thread for these guys once the new website is up and running. It doesn't seem right to drag down the Wagner thread with another company's info. They also should consider becoming a sponsor on the board (Wagner is a sponsor already) in fairness to the companies that are paying for their exposure.

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-03-2012, 11:31 AM

Correct, I second that!! No more entries from another IC provider, open another thread for any other IC manufacturer and lets make sure they become a SPONSOR!!! I think that would be a great motivator

anielsen71 · 10-03-2012, 12:30 PM

+1
I'l talk to Rolf at Promotec about becoming a sponsor.

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-04-2012, 06:19 AM

Great job @ anielsen71

DieselDiner · 10-05-2012, 11:29 AM

UPDATE FROM GERMANY: I got a note from Matt, who has completed the trip to Wagner, and now has the new Wagner i/c on his car. Here's his account:

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I just got back after the 11 hours trip with a 45 minute long traffic jamb and 1,160 kilometers to and from traveled.

This intercooler is awesome. Noticed a difference right away. Carsten the owner of Wagner and I did temperature checks before and after the new intercooler install. The old intercooler was reading around 64 degrees Celsius from the intercooler to the intake with an ambient outside air temp of 11 degrees Celsius. The new one had an outside air temp of 12 degrees Celsius and an awesome 41 degrees Celsius from the intercooler to the intake.

The new Wagner intercooler needed absolutely zero cutting of the front bumper to install. Just one piece of plastic had to be removed on the RH side of the intercooler. Carsten said that he would be posting photos. I will post them when I get a chance.

I left there around 1300 my time and around 0700 AM your time. Carsten also stated he was going to put in the word after I left to start production of 100 of them. Again this is a great addition to our already potent 335d engine.

So, there you have it. Pretty damn cool. We have an fmic for our cars that fits the factory location. I don't know if Wagner plans additional tests or not. I'm pretty happy with what Matt has seen in the temp testing, and it sounds like he's happy with what he's seeing with his car. We're getting closer to being ready to go!

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-05-2012, 12:17 PM

wohoo!! Will post this info on the fest!!

crazyinp · 10-05-2012, 01:32 PM

That sounds great. Any idea on pressure drop btw the OEM and Aftermarket IC?

DieselDiner · 10-05-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyinp

That sounds great. Any idea on pressure drop btw the OEM and Aftermarket IC?

AFAIK, they didn't test the pressure drop while Matt was there. I mentioned this to Matt (after I got his update, so too late to affect the test fitting) as something that would be a desired data point for the community, but I don't know what Wagner has in mind.

335dwagon · 10-05-2012, 01:45 PM

Wagner kept my old intercooler. They are planning on placing it and the new 335d intercooler on a Flow Bench to test. This should show a lot of results. Joseph, I also forgot to tell you these temps were at Full Throttle going from 15 mph up to about 120 mph. It was around 220 Kph we got up to very quickly. Also for the panel that requires removal is very easy to remove no cutting involved. Carsten will be making a install manual to go along with the install. The entire install takes 30 to 45 minutes.

DieselDiner · 10-05-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 335dwagon

Wagner kept my old intercooler. They are planning on placing it and the new 335d intercooler on a Flow Bench to test. This should show a lot of results. Joseph, I also forgot to tell you these temps were at Full Throttle going from 15 mph up to about 120 mph. It was around 220 Kph we got up to very quickly. Also for the panel that requires removal is very easy to remove no cutting involved. Carsten will be making a install manual to go along with the install. The entire install takes 30 to 45 minutes.

That is just excellent news about the flow bench. That should address any questions that might arise. I hope folks appreciate what they are going to be getting!

Sending you a pm.

GreekboyD · 10-05-2012, 01:54 PM

Thanks for all your work Matt and DD you are right. It seems that Wagner is being very thorough and I can't wait to see what benchmarks we see with their IC versus the stock one.

gt7570b · 10-05-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekboyD

Thanks for all your work Matt and DD you are right. It seems that Wagner is being very thorough and I can't wait to see what benchmarks we see with their IC versus the stock one.

Sign me up for a group buy.

GreekboyD · 10-11-2012, 08:39 PM

So I was on the Wagner Tuning website adding the IC to my cart and something caught my eye and gave me an idea:

Why not try for a group buy?

DieselDiner · 10-11-2012, 09:19 PM

The impression I get is that's something they will consider once they have inventory and are in a position to sell product.

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-12-2012, 07:18 AM

here's the email he sent me:

mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards

Carsten Wagner

Von: Wagner-Tuning [mailto:info@wagner-tuning.de]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2012 15:55
An: 'Axel Hernandez'
Betreff: AW: AW: 335d Intercooler

Hello axel,

every went fine on Friday. Intercooler fits like a glove. We had a temperature drop of aprox. 23°.

We are going into Production now.

Thanks.

Here is the facebook message today:

Wagner Tuning USA
what about renntech?

yes, you can post it...

people want believe it mostlym because we did it by ourself

but Matt, was here abd he has seen it in person :-)

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-12-2012, 02:48 PM

I got this message from Nick at WAGNER:

Wagner Tuning USA Jonathan Ruan we will have them here in the US in 45 days!! email me your contact info and I can keep you updated on it. Here my email nick@wagner-tuning.com

woohoo!!!!

GreekboyD · 10-12-2012, 03:51 PM

I added it to my cart yesterday and shows it as being on "back order" for now.

Does anyone know how much this IC weighs?

gruppeM3 · 10-12-2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

I got this message from Nick at WAGNER:

Wagner Tuning USA Jonathan Ruan we will have them here in the US in 45 days!! email me your contact info and I can keep you updated on it. Here my email nick@wagner-tuning.com

woohoo!!!!

As I was checking this thread I was like "how the F did my name come up in one of these posts"!

I then realized that I had posted on Wagner's FaceBook page earlier today.

I'm guessing that was there response to me.

taibanl · 10-12-2012, 06:18 PM

What should a 23C drop give you in HP? Sorry. I am new to this.

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10-03-2012, 09:38 AM	#68
anielsen71 Major 557 Rep 1,499 Posts Drives: F36 435xd Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Behind the wheel iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F36 435d [8.00]	@Puerto Hmm...I'l write Rolf and tell him there some problems with their homepage. __________________ Brgds Allan ‘15 F36 435xd Gran Coupé Ex: E46 330d, E91 330dA
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10-03-2012, 09:56 AM	#69
anielsen71 Major 557 Rep 1,499 Posts Drives: F36 435xd Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Behind the wheel iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F36 435d [8.00]	Just got word back that a new website is on the way..... It will soon be available at www.promotecmotor.co.za __________________ Brgds Allan ‘15 F36 435xd Gran Coupé Ex: E46 330d, E91 330dA
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10-03-2012, 10:24 AM	#70
DieselDiner Lieutenant Colonel 486 Rep 1,614 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Home iTrader: (2)	If I may make a suggestion, it might be a good idea to start a new thread for these guys once the new website is up and running. It doesn't seem right to drag down the Wagner thread with another company's info. They also should consider becoming a sponsor on the board (Wagner is a sponsor already) in fairness to the companies that are paying for their exposure. __________________
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10-03-2012, 11:31 AM	#71
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Correct, I second that!! No more entries from another IC provider, open another thread for any other IC manufacturer and lets make sure they become a SPONSOR!!! I think that would be a great motivator __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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10-03-2012, 12:30 PM	#72
anielsen71 Major 557 Rep 1,499 Posts Drives: F36 435xd Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Behind the wheel iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F36 435d [8.00]	+1 I'l talk to Rolf at Promotec about becoming a sponsor. __________________ Brgds Allan ‘15 F36 435xd Gran Coupé Ex: E46 330d, E91 330dA
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10-04-2012, 06:19 AM	#73
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Great job @ anielsen71 __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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10-05-2012, 12:17 PM	#75
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	wohoo!! Will post this info on the fest!! __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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10-05-2012, 01:32 PM	#76
crazyinp Major 296 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (5) Garage List 2022 BMW X5e [0.00] 2023 BMW X5M [0.00]	That sounds great. Any idea on pressure drop btw the OEM and Aftermarket IC?
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10-05-2012, 01:45 PM	#78
335dwagon Private First Class 18 Rep 136 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335D wagon Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Filderstadt, Deutschland iTrader: (0)	Wagner kept my old intercooler. They are planning on placing it and the new 335d intercooler on a Flow Bench to test. This should show a lot of results. Joseph, I also forgot to tell you these temps were at Full Throttle going from 15 mph up to about 120 mph. It was around 220 Kph we got up to very quickly. Also for the panel that requires removal is very easy to remove no cutting involved. Carsten will be making a install manual to go along with the install. The entire install takes 30 to 45 minutes. __________________
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10-05-2012, 01:54 PM	#80
GreekboyD Brigadier General 410 Rep 3,049 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [8.00]	Thanks for all your work Matt and DD you are right. It seems that Wagner is being very thorough and I can't wait to see what benchmarks we see with their IC versus the stock one.
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10-11-2012, 08:39 PM	#82
GreekboyD Brigadier General 410 Rep 3,049 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [8.00]	So I was on the Wagner Tuning website adding the IC to my cart and something caught my eye and gave me an idea: Why not try for a group buy?
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10-11-2012, 09:19 PM	#83
DieselDiner Lieutenant Colonel 486 Rep 1,614 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Home iTrader: (2)	The impression I get is that's something they will consider once they have inventory and are in a position to sell product. __________________
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10-12-2012, 07:18 AM	#84
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	here's the email he sent me: mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards Carsten Wagner Von: Wagner-Tuning [mailto:info@wagner-tuning.de] Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2012 15:55 An: 'Axel Hernandez' Betreff: AW: AW: 335d Intercooler Hello axel, every went fine on Friday. Intercooler fits like a glove. We had a temperature drop of aprox. 23°. We are going into Production now. Thanks. Here is the facebook message today: Wagner Tuning USA what about renntech? yes, you can post it... people want believe it mostlym because we did it by ourself but Matt, was here abd he has seen it in person :-) __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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10-12-2012, 02:48 PM	#85
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	I got this message from Nick at WAGNER: Wagner Tuning USA Jonathan Ruan we will have them here in the US in 45 days!! email me your contact info and I can keep you updated on it. Here my email nick@wagner-tuning.com woohoo!!!! __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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10-12-2012, 03:51 PM	#86
GreekboyD Brigadier General 410 Rep 3,049 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [8.00]	I added it to my cart yesterday and shows it as being on "back order" for now. Does anyone know how much this IC weighs?
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10-12-2012, 06:18 PM	#88
taibanl Brigadier General 280 Rep 4,121 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NA iTrader: (4)	What should a 23C drop give you in HP? Sorry. I am new to this.
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