Some tire size questions? 19" BBS LM-R + Coilovers (now I have Corner Balance q's!)

Pure745 · 12-19-2010, 02:16 PM

My current setup is 225/35 front and 255/35 rear. I bought my BBS with tires and coilovers at the same time so I've never changed the tire setup.

The fronts last pretty long, but 4 months ago I bought FK452's and now they are completely bald, like racing slicks almost. My car was going crazy in the rain and I was just thinking there is no way my rears are already worn out.. turns out I was wrong. The tires are the same size as the ones I replaced them with and are evenly bald, all across the tire. Before they were not wearing like that (previous tire was Contisport3).

Now my question is do I have any other options for tire size configs that might wear/perform better? I'm not into the "stretched" look.. more for everyday driving and better use overall w/o rubbing.

A pic of my ride height:

Pure745 · 12-19-2010, 06:41 PM

Please help! I need to get some new tires tomorrow or Tuesday.. If I can run a thicker setup that will last longer let me know.. thanks guys!

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 12-19-2010, 07:08 PM

Some tyres last longer than others. Continentals in general are a longer lasting tyre than say a softer compound Yokohama Advan Sport, all things being equal.

Wearing tyres out in 4months is pretty unusual, do you drive your car overly hard?
Have you checked your tyre pressure to ensure they weren't under inflated?
It's possible you got a 'dud' set of tyres, where did you get them from and check the build date on the tyres?

Different 'widths' don't really affect the amount of tread on the tyre.

VTECaddict · 12-19-2010, 07:09 PM

the sizing doesnt really have an effect on the tread life. the tire brand/model does.

Pure745 · 12-19-2010, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

Some tyres last longer than others. Continentals in general are a longer lasting tyre than say a softer compound Yokohama Advan Sport, all things being equal.

Wearing tyres out in 4months is pretty unusual, do you drive your car overly hard?
Have you checked your tyre pressure to ensure they weren't under inflated?
It's possible you got a 'dud' set of tyres, where did you get them from and check the build date on the tyres?

Different 'widths' don't really affect the amount of tread on the tyre.

The ones that wore out in 4 months are Falken 452's. Where would I get the build date?

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 12-19-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pure745

The ones that wore out in 4 months are Falken 452's. Where would I get the build date?

Yup I recognise the FK452 model number from Falken, it's a good value tyre and with their rounded sidewalls they are well suited to lowered applications.

Build date is on the sidewall of the tyre, it's a 4digit number (smaller than the tyre size numbers)
3009 = 30th week of 2009
2107 = 21st week of 2007

etc...

If you got the tyres 'new' then they should ideally of been manufactured within the last 2years.

VTECaddict · 12-19-2010, 07:18 PM

how many MILES did you drive in 4 months?

Pure745 · 12-19-2010, 07:38 PM

@mbrox: Only # I found similar was 1710.. and I got them new.

@VTEC: I'd estimate around 4k miles.

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 12-19-2010, 07:54 PM

1710 = last week of April 2010, so the tyres are new.

I'm out of reasons as to why they are bald in only 4k miles, unless you've been driving like this

Pure745 · 12-19-2010, 07:56 PM

LOL.. i did get the vishu v4

But seriously.. my commute is bumper to bumper Downtown LA traffic.. then the weekends is usually about 40 miles max of fwy driving to play golf

Not sure why they wore out so fast.. but they wore evenly and are both bald.

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 12-19-2010, 08:53 PM

Try hit up the vendor, they may be aware of a batch of Falkens that wear fast but as a 'consumable item' it's unlikely you'd be eligible for any compensation.

Pure745 · 12-19-2010, 10:03 PM

What about this setup?

235/35/19 and 265/30/19

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 12-19-2010, 10:37 PM

At the end of the day, it still has the same amount of tread, even though there may appear to be more rubber.

You could give it a go, perhaps the wider 265s will wear marginally better as the weight will be distributed over more rubber.
But then you don't want to run into issues with scrubbing.

Consider changing tyre brands

FLOSS · 12-20-2010, 12:59 AM

toe setting could be off a bit..

Jesse@MBRP · 12-20-2010, 08:39 AM

those wheels are sick

remmib · 12-20-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pure745

LOL.. i did get the vishu v4

But seriously.. my commute is bumper to bumper Downtown LA traffic.. then the weekends is usually about 40 miles max of fwy driving to play golf

Not sure why they wore out so fast.. but they wore evenly and are both bald.

Get the car a new alignment maybe.

Tee212 · 12-20-2010, 01:07 PM

Your car is lowered, camber/ride height/toe have been compromised. 4k miles is completely unexceptable unless youre doing burn outs for fun. If you didnt already get an alignment i would have it rechecked.

Pure745 · 12-20-2010, 05:55 PM

Thanks guys.. made an appointment to get an alignment (and 4 new tires

)

Is a "corner balance" worth it? The guy said they will completely readjust my coilovers to optimum ride height?

NiVeDh · 12-20-2010, 06:53 PM

Corner balancing is unnecessary for a street driven car.

Pure745 · 12-20-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiVeDh

Corner balancing is unnecessary for a street driven car.

U sure? Wouldn't it also help tire wear? Everything I've read said it's a good thing to do ONCE if it's a street car.

NiVeDh · 12-21-2010, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pure745

U sure? Wouldn't it also help tire wear? Everything I've read said it's a good thing to do ONCE if it's a street car.

Proper alignment (especially toe) has more of an impact on tire wear. Also, with corner balancing, there's an aesthetic issue: your ride heights will not be even (each corner will be at a different height).

DRYBONES · 12-21-2010, 09:51 AM

An alignment is a good idea. However if eveything is in spec it is possible that your bushings are worn causing premature wear. It was a known issue(kinda sorta) with
E36s. The trailing arm bushings would get worn causing extreme wear on rear tires.
I could be wrong by saying its the trailing arms but still have the rear suspension componets checked for worn bushings.

Your car is fairly new but running coilovers could have prematurely worn them.

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Stuart@BMRAutowerkes Major General 808 Rep 5,530 Posts Drives: a black car Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (3)	Some tyres last longer than others. Continentals in general are a longer lasting tyre than say a softer compound Yokohama Advan Sport, all things being equal. Wearing tyres out in 4months is pretty unusual, do you drive your car overly hard? Have you checked your tyre pressure to ensure they weren't under inflated? It's possible you got a 'dud' set of tyres, where did you get them from and check the build date on the tyres? Different 'widths' don't really affect the amount of tread on the tyre.
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Stuart@BMRAutowerkes Major General 808 Rep 5,530 Posts Drives: a black car Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (3)	1710 = last week of April 2010, so the tyres are new. I'm out of reasons as to why they are bald in only 4k miles, unless you've been driving like this
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Pure745 Private First Class 11 Rep 124 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe/745i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	LOL.. i did get the vishu v4 But seriously.. my commute is bumper to bumper Downtown LA traffic.. then the weekends is usually about 40 miles max of fwy driving to play golf Not sure why they wore out so fast.. but they wore evenly and are both bald. __________________ 335i Coupe\|BSM/Red Coral\|BBS LM-R DBK\|H&R Coilovers\|OEM M3 Lip Spoiler\|Many more pending..
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Stuart@BMRAutowerkes Major General 808 Rep 5,530 Posts Drives: a black car Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (3)	Try hit up the vendor, they may be aware of a batch of Falkens that wear fast but as a 'consumable item' it's unlikely you'd be eligible for any compensation.
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Pure745 Private First Class 11 Rep 124 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe/745i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	What about this setup? 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 __________________ 335i Coupe\|BSM/Red Coral\|BBS LM-R DBK\|H&R Coilovers\|OEM M3 Lip Spoiler\|Many more pending..
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Stuart@BMRAutowerkes Major General 808 Rep 5,530 Posts Drives: a black car Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (3)	At the end of the day, it still has the same amount of tread, even though there may appear to be more rubber. You could give it a go, perhaps the wider 265s will wear marginally better as the weight will be distributed over more rubber. But then you don't want to run into issues with scrubbing. Consider changing tyre brands
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