[oneshare325]

My friend is about to buy a 2006 GTI with a DSG. I have a 06 325i Auto. VW says that his car will do 0 to 60 in 6.7, and our 325i's in 7.2. I have timed my car 5 or 6 times and in 0 to 60 I am getting about 6.6-7.0? Anyone have any insite, or experience. I would hate for my friend to have a faster car. I know it is a BMW comparing to a VW, but still I want to bet better in every apect.

Thanks everyone!

[Asiann]

Originally Posted by oneshare325

My friend is about to buy a 2006 GTI with a DSG. I have a 06 325i Auto. VW says that his car will do 0 to 60 in 6.7, and our 325i's in 7.2. I have timed my car 5 or 6 times and in 0 to 60 I am getting about 6.6-7.0? Anyone have any insite, or experience. I would hate for my friend to have a faster car. I know it is a BMW comparing to a VW, but still I want to bet better in every apect.

Thanks everyone!

IMO you could win if you can drive well. See launching techniques for the Step. I didn't have any problems but we were already in motion and not from a standing start. Let me know how it turns out and good luck!

[ALPINE6SPD]

it will be very close. The dsg is very easy to launch and shift very fast. If you post it here everyone will tell you that you will smoke it if you post on a vw page they will tell you the vw will smoke you. I say its close and consistently the GTI should win in a straight line.

[Asiann]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

it will be very close. The dsg is very easy to launch and shift very fast. If you post it here everyone will tell you that you will smoke it if you post on a vw page they will tell you the vw will smoke you. I say its close and consistently the GTI should win in a straight line.

His friend is just getting the car so he will just have to race him right away if there is doubt.

[Asiann]

Here is a post from Autoweek about the GLI. Are you sure it is a GTI or GLI?
The GLI does better on the skidpad. Holding the steering wheel steady and working with the throttle, we found only a mild amount of understeer. The turbo lag doesn’t even come into play. In fact, we could hardly tell there was a turbocharger there.

With a quarter tank of fuel, stability control switched off and the transmission in sport mode, we hit the drag strip. The GLI shifts into second gear at its 6500-rpm redline, with subsequent shifts occupying upward of 6800 rpm. It needs third gear for 60 mph and fourth for the quarter-mile.

A slight tailwind at launch helped us get our best 0-to-60-mph time, 6.88 seconds, and a best quarter-mile time of 15.31 seconds at 92.3 mph. A GLI rival, the Acura TSX, posts a 0-to-60-mph time of 7.38 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 15.60 seconds at 91.7 mph.

[Asiann]

ENGINE
Front-transverse 2.0-liter/121-cid dohc turbocharged I4
Horsepower: 200 @ 5500-6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft): 207 @ 1800-4700 rpm
Compression ratio: 10.3:1
Fuel requirement: 91 octane
DRIVETRAIN
Front-wheel drive
Transmission: Six-speed sequential manual
Final drive ratio: 3.14:1
SUSPENSION
Front: MacPherson struts with coil springs, gas-charged shock absorbers, antiroll bar
Rear: Four-link with coil springs, gas-charged shock absorbers, antiroll bar
BRAKES/WHEELS/TIRES
Discs front and rear, ABS with electronic brake force distribution; aluminum 225/40ZR-18 Goodyear Eagle F1
STANDING-START ACCELERATION
0-60 mph: 6.88 sec
0-100 km/h (62.1 mph): 7.3 sec
0-quarter-mile: 15.31 sec @ 92.3 mph
ROLLING ACCELERATION
20-40 mph (first and second gear): 2.5 sec
40-60 mph (second and third gear): 3.6 sec
60-80 mph (fourth gear): 5.0 sec
BRAKING
60 mph-0: 114 ft
HANDLING
490-foot slalom: 45.5 mph
Lateral acceleration (200-foot skidpad): 0.86 g

[Asiann]

Here is the GTI info. Since it has a limiter of 130 for US models and don't know about the 325 you have him in the long run. Times are slower than 325 and it weighs 3000 lbs.

[canucklion]

your friend will own you.
I've test drove the 2.0T DSG, that mofo shifts gear like a pro, just stomp on the gas and go.
and why do you care if your friend's car is faster than yours? if you're that worried, go get a Ferrari F430, then you don't have to worry at all Unless your friend get a Veyron.

[canucklion]

VW are fine cars, what's with the recent influx of newbies having this superiority complex, saying stuff like "I know I'm comparing our godly bimmers to lowly such and such..."

Originally Posted by oneshare325

My friend is about to buy a 2006 GTI with a DSG. I have a 06 325i Auto. VW says that his car will do 0 to 60 in 6.7, and our 325i's in 7.2. I have timed my car 5 or 6 times and in 0 to 60 I am getting about 6.6-7.0? Anyone have any insite, or experience. I would hate for my friend to have a faster car. I know it is a BMW comparing to a VW, but still I want to bet better in every apect.

Thanks everyone!

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by canucklion

your friend will own you.

Tis true.

VW, like BMW, publishes VERY conservative performance numbers, that are regularly trounced by all the car mags when they do their tests. And the 2.0T is widely rumoured to be more like 220 hp than 200.

But who cares? Whenever one of these threads pops up about "who's faster?" I have to laugh. Is this the funny car board? The Fremont Drag Strip forum? No. BMWs (and GTI's for that matter but I digress) are about much more than a 0-60 or quarter-mile time. If you want to win a drag race, go buy Mustang GT or other muscle car. And probably regret it for all the cheesiness that turd exudes.

[canucklion]

hear ye hear ye.
I use to visit clubrsx's forum for shits and giggles, and this is the type of threads that get posted all the time, no real races, just hypothetical what ifs? what would happens?
and yeah, like other German manufacturers, their numbers are conservative, don't think BMW is the only one in the world that has conservative numbers.

I don't want to come across as a curmudgeon, I love and baby my car like the rest of us, and I enjoy driving it immensely, but I don't have a preconceived notion that my car is some sorta golden chariot that other cars should be bowing down to.

Originally Posted by KevinC

Tis true.

VW, like BMW, publishes VERY conservative performance numbers, that are regularly trounced by all the car mags when they do their tests. And the 2.0T is widely rumoured to be more like 220 hp than 200.

But who cares? Whenever one of these threads pops up about "who's faster?" I have to laugh. Is this the funny car board? The Fremont Drag Strip forum? No. BMWs (and GTI's for that matter but I digress) are about much more than a 0-60 or quarter-mile time. If you want to win a drag race, go buy Mustang GT or other muscle car. And probably regret it for all the cheesiness that turd exudes.

[BeeEmDubU]

Originally Posted by oneshare325

My friend is about to buy a 2006 GTI with a DSG. I have a 06 325i Auto. VW says that his car will do 0 to 60 in 6.7, and our 325i's in 7.2. I have timed my car 5 or 6 times and in 0 to 60 I am getting about 6.6-7.0? Anyone have any insite, or experience. I would hate for my friend to have a faster car. I know it is a BMW comparing to a VW, but still I want to bet better in every apect.

Thanks everyone!

how did you time your 0-60 time? did you just look at the speedometer? bmws are known to overstate your actual speed by about 5%

[volinder]

Originally Posted by canucklion

VW are fine cars, what's with the recent influx of newbies having this superiority complex, saying stuff like "I know I'm comparing our godly bimmers to lowly such and such..."

Thank you very much, well said.

I love how guys keep saying that the BMW is a better car than the VW.

Let's get something straight, the bmw is a better car no doubt, but not by much. For the money, VW's are far, far better.

Consider that the GTI is a whole lot cheaper, and throw a little chip in that car, it will eat 330's for lunch. Trust me, I would have put my chipped 1.8t GTI anyday against a 330i, no prob!!!


VW's

[brian32e]

I think the real answer to this question is "who cares?"

[volinder]

Originally Posted by brian32e

I think the real answer to this question is "who cares?"

agreed!!!! comparing apples to oranges

[ssam]

I agree with you guys

I love my car but GTI is faster at low rev .....thanks to the turbo

acceleration is stronger on a normal daily drive because of highest torque

To feel the same amount of acceleration you have to highrev the 325i past 4000rpm

325i is by far superior for handling and cornering)

[ON325i]

hey guys, if u ever timed the 0.3 seconds difference on a clock, let us know. ;D

[ON325i]

Originally Posted by Asiann

IMO you could win if you can drive well. See launching techniques for the Step. I didn't have any problems but we were already in motion and not from a standing start. Let me know how it turns out and good luck!

just curious, is there such thing as a launching technique for the steptronics?

[Asiann]

Originally Posted by coreslogic

just curious, is there such thing as a launching technique for the steptronics?

Someone actually posted it here somewhere. I was just as surprised as well. I just thought you put your foot on the petal and hang on.

[330m]

I recently traded in my 05 Audi A3 2.0T Sport DSG (same engine and running gear as the golf GTI) for my 330i.

I had a REVO coded ECU and it was dynoed at 259BHP and 299lbft. It was very fast but being front wheel drive it really stuggled to get the power down. And of course it handled like a brick compared to the BMW. The DSG makes the Step seem 100 years old though.

I got bored of the 2 pedal, had to get back to a manual and a proper engine!

[Bimmer325]

mind you, those GTis are Turboed car! tell them to take away the turbo and lets meet up!!!
and ours are famous silky smooth Natural Aspirated (NA) engine.

[cntlaw]

Originally Posted by oneshare325

My friend is about to buy a 2006 GTI with a DSG. I have a 06 325i Auto. VW says that his car will do 0 to 60 in 6.7, and our 325i's in 7.2. I have timed my car 5 or 6 times and in 0 to 60 I am getting about 6.6-7.0? Anyone have any insite, or experience. I would hate for my friend to have a faster car. I know it is a BMW comparing to a VW, but still I want to bet better in every apect.

Thanks everyone!

GTI and 325i E90 have very similar power output. 325i is a bit heavier ~200lbs and you might have wider rear tires than the GTI too. The two cars should be pretty close and you can win with a better launch. You should not hate your friend because he has a much cheaper GTI and faster than yoru 325i in a straight. Audi's DSG transmission is still the No.1 in the world, which screws SMG III, screws Porsche Sequential, screws the F1......and, not until we see Mercdes/BMW come up with the new double clutching design transmission, there will be no light in our days.