Official N/A Dyno thread -

jc5988 · 12-17-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Can't be, blue line clearly has a 3 stage and the car is specifically listed as an N52. There was another dyno you posted of this car with the single stage manifold.

perhaps its N51

Taskmaster · 12-18-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jc5988

perhaps its N51

Ehh....Some N51s/128is don't come with secondaries either.

Just waiting for further clarification - either way, I'm happy with the results.

andrey_gta · 12-21-2014, 04:38 PM

So from the Bimmerpsort front page today I noticed this BR performance
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1065967
http://www.br-performance.fr/

They tune N52 too. Here is what I found ( all are in HP estimate, not WHP):

N52 MSV80 & disa

N52 MSV70 & disa ( sometiems crosslisted for MSV 80 - but i dont believe them)

N53 No Disa - This is EU only

I compared MSV70 vs MSV80 to see where MSV 70 gets that 10 hp more power
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Notice that the MSV80 seems to get better Tq

hassmaschine · 12-21-2014, 09:41 PM

You don't get more power or torque from a computer. The difference between msv70 & msv80 is basically the cpu, the tunes are almost identical. The only reason for a difference in power is tuning, not hardware.

andrey_gta · 12-21-2014, 10:39 PM

This is The same tuner, on different cars getting different results.
Its either the ECU/DME or OEM Header/Catalic changes. MSV70 seem to get better gains on most plots or even dyno days

hassmaschine · 12-21-2014, 11:58 PM

The computer can't cause a power gain or loss. The tuner might be the same, but that doesn't mean the tunes are the same or the engines were.

smellthebeans · 12-22-2014, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Record ?

Close to 290 at the crank

....thats impressive.

chris82 · 12-22-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Record ?

Wow those gains! Awesome!

From your experience, at these WHP numbers what is the difference in % between a mustang and dynojet? I've heard Mustangs produce anywhere from 5 - 10 % lower?

hassmaschine · 12-22-2014, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chris82

Wow those gains! Awesome!

From your experience, at these WHP numbers what is the difference in % between a mustang and dynojet? I've heard Mustangs produce anywhere from 5 - 10 % lower?

There's really little point in comparing the two, whats important are gains from the baseline on the same dyno.

chris82 · 12-22-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hassmaschine

There's really little point in comparing the two, whats important are gains from the baseline on the same dyno.

True, true, but I'd like to know this so I can compare my numbers to these. Mine were done on a Mustang dyno, with no baseline

SflBimmer8484 · 12-23-2014, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chris82

Wow those gains! Awesome!

From your experience, at these WHP numbers what is the difference in % between a mustang and dynojet? I've heard Mustangs produce anywhere from 5 - 10 % lower?

Mustang Dyno Numbers are roughly 10% lower than Dynojet in WHP.

chris82 · 12-23-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Mustang Dyno Numbers are roughly 10% lower than Dynojet in WHP.

Thanks!

Taskmaster · 01-25-2015, 03:32 PM

A Guy who works at the same shop I dyno at ran his 128i. He said that it put down 207whp, but the vanos solenoid were bad. Says the car feels even quicker after he replaced them.

rick100 · 01-25-2015, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Username: Kgolf31
Car/Engine: 128i/N51B30
Transmission: Manual
Mods: AA tune, muffler delete, AA headers
Dyno type: Dynojet
Peak Numbers: 229whp/207wtq

those are some good numbers. Im wondering how much gain he would get with the 3 stage intake. Maybe close to 240whp??

Inline · 01-25-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rick100

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Username: Kgolf31
Car/Engine: 128i/N51B30
Transmission: Manual
Mods: AA tune, muffler delete, AA headers
Dyno type: Dynojet
Peak Numbers: 229whp/207wtq

those are some good numbers. Im wondering how much gain he would get with the 3 stage intake. Maybe close to 240whp??

N51's come with a 3 stage if I recall.

Mike. · 01-25-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Inline

N51's come with a 3 stage if I recall.

Your recollection is correct.

Kgolf31 · 01-28-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Username:
Car/Engine: 128i/N52B30
Transmission: Manual
Mods: Stock
Dyno type: Dynojet
Peak Numbers: 204whp/188wtq

Wow, your A/F takes a dive.

Shows how hot our EGT gets when you have OE Cats.

hassmaschine · 01-28-2015, 07:38 AM

that's what the stock 328i/325i AF curve looks like.

JDane07 · 03-08-2015, 01:53 PM

Is that one of those that guesstimates the crank HP?

Dan Bilzerian · 03-08-2015, 03:55 PM

We need more torque.

SACsac12 · 03-08-2015, 06:30 PM

How can I get the ptorque remap done?

ZhengHai · 03-11-2015, 01:31 AM

Geeze my car put some shitty numbers yesterday on a dyna pack..

12-21-2014, 04:38 PM	#179
andrey_gta Brigadier General 298 Rep 4,040 Posts Drives: 130i coupé ;) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bimmerpost iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i [10.00]	So from the Bimmerpsort front page today I noticed this BR performance http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1065967 http://www.br-performance.fr/ They tune N52 too. Here is what I found ( all are in HP estimate, not WHP): N52 MSV80 & disa N52 MSV70 & disa ( sometiems crosslisted for MSV 80 - but i dont believe them) N53 No Disa - This is EU only I compared MSV70 vs MSV80 to see where MSV 70 gets that 10 hp more power Notice that the MSV80 seems to get better Tq __________________ 128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, 3.73 diff, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE In-progress: //M front arm, M3 rack, e36M lip Wishlist: Coils, n55 mnts, headers, LSD, e60 finn diff "The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
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12-21-2014, 09:41 PM	#180
hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	You don't get more power or torque from a computer. The difference between msv70 & msv80 is basically the cpu, the tunes are almost identical. The only reason for a difference in power is tuning, not hardware.
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12-21-2014, 10:39 PM	#181
andrey_gta Brigadier General 298 Rep 4,040 Posts Drives: 130i coupé ;) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bimmerpost iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i [10.00]	This is The same tuner, on different cars getting different results. Its either the ECU/DME or OEM Header/Catalic changes. MSV70 seem to get better gains on most plots or even dyno days __________________ 128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, 3.73 diff, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE In-progress: //M front arm, M3 rack, e36M lip Wishlist: Coils, n55 mnts, headers, LSD, e60 finn diff "The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
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12-21-2014, 11:58 PM	#182
hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	The computer can't cause a power gain or loss. The tuner might be the same, but that doesn't mean the tunes are the same or the engines were.
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Taskmaster Banned 2465 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	A Guy who works at the same shop I dyno at ran his 128i. He said that it put down 207whp, but the vanos solenoid were bad. Says the car feels even quicker after he replaced them.
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01-28-2015, 07:38 AM	#194
hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	that's what the stock 328i/325i AF curve looks like.
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03-08-2015, 01:53 PM	#195
JDane07 Lieutenant Colonel 143 Rep 1,720 Posts Drives: 330i (sold), MK7 GTI Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Napa, CA iTrader: (3)	Is that one of those that guesstimates the crank HP?
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03-08-2015, 03:55 PM	#196
Dan Bilzerian Major 355 Rep 1,192 Posts Drives: E90 325i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Edmonds,WA iTrader: (0)	We need more torque.
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03-11-2015, 01:31 AM	#198
ZhengHai Captain 240 Rep 883 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: AV, California iTrader: (2)	Geeze my car put some shitty numbers yesterday on a dyna pack.. __________________
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