JB4~Rob Beck turbo 335i dyno runs

Malaka1 · 12-19-2011, 07:34 PM

335i 6MT FBO
RB turbos
M10 nozzle using Boost Juice

100 octane

Best run Map3 70 additive
459rwhp and 482wtq

Run 1 was meth additive of 50.
422rwhp and 442wtq

I think with some fuel setting adjustments and 100% meth I should be closer to 500rwhp.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 12-19-2011, 07:40 PM

I can barely understand that datalog. How was your ignition? Any baseline?

blisstik · 12-19-2011, 08:36 PM

Is it normal to lean ~11 after 4500rpm?

Syndicategt · 12-19-2011, 08:38 PM

Need 2 (or more) nozzles with 75% or greater meth to hit that 500 rwhp barrier. Great power still

Throw some MS109 in the tank, add another jet, and run more timing and you are right there (though the lean curve concerns me).

Malaka1 · 12-19-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

I can barely understand that datalog. How was your ignition? Any baseline?

Baseline on same dyno was 290rwhp 293wtq. The car was running a little lean I needed to adjust the Fuelpressure setting.

blisstik · 12-19-2011, 08:44 PM

Could you overlap your baseline so we can see the gain up top?

Malaka1 · 12-19-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blisstik

Could you overlap your baseline so we can see the gain up top?

Yes in Winpep7 but I do not know how to copy that image and post it...

onebadmofo · 12-19-2011, 08:46 PM

A little disappointing to say the least, I have as much power with stock turbos.
What tune you're running?

blisstik · 12-19-2011, 08:49 PM

I think you're seeing the peak gain, not under the curve. At least that's what I suspect since most RBs have been the same story. More power up top and that's a big difference.

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

A little disappointing to say the least, I have as much power with stock turbos.
What tune you're running?

onebadmofo · 12-19-2011, 08:50 PM

That's true. My RB's are going in soon as well, we'll see my before and after runs

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 12-19-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Malaka1

Baseline on same dyno was 290rwhp 293wtq. The car was running a little lean I needed to adjust the Fuelpressure setting.

Where are you guys seeing anyhting lean? I see you near 11 AFR in the top end. Mid-range is a little lean compared to Cobb but you still have solid mid-range power. If I could see your graphing of the pull better I'd be able to understand a little more.

I thought you used to run PROcede?

Malaka1 · 12-19-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Where are you guys seeing anyhting lean? I see you near 11 AFR in the top end. Mid-range is a little lean compared to Cobb but you still have solid mid-range power. If I could see your graphing of the pull better I'd be able to understand a little more.

I thought you used to run PROcede?

Want me to email you the .csv file? I was running Procede but it has been about a year since I switched..

tscdennab · 12-20-2011, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndicategt

(though the lean curve concerns me).

Where do you see lean ? The AFR is around 11.5 where it matters.

hotrod182 · 12-20-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

Where do you see lean ? The AFR is around 11.5 where it matters.

+1
I would venture to guess if he was a little more lean than 11.5 he might actually make more power, although this richer curve would more likely be safer.

Also, those of you comparing dyno numbers have to realize in Florida the ambient conditions are usually less than ideal, Any idea on the ambient temp and humidity readings?

Also, why does it say Dzenno on top of the graph? LOL.

Kalud · 12-20-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

Also, why does it say Dzenno on top of the graph? LOL.

I just found out that Dzenno helped him (on BB forum) format the image from his .drf files. I guess Dzenno forgot to change the title. Nothing to worry about here I think.

Nice results Malaka1, thanks for sharing!

scottp999 · 12-20-2011, 10:10 AM

He's also been given some tips to get some more HP out of them.

Syndicategt · 12-20-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

Where do you see lean ? The AFR is around 11.5 where it matters.

Ops my bad, I looked at the values on the X axis wrong.

Malaka1 · 12-20-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

+1
I would venture to guess if he was a little more lean than 11.5 he might actually make more power, although this richer curve would more likely be safer.

Also, those of you comparing dyno numbers have to realize in Florida the ambient conditions are usually less than ideal, Any idea on the ambient temp and humidity readings?

Also, why does it say Dzenno on top of the graph? LOL.

Ambient temps were 83 degrees 31% humidity.

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