BMW 335d Fuel Injector Problems

Puerto Rican 335d · 11-06-2013, 10:26 AM

RENNtech $1200, JB around $400 i think

modobrew · 11-06-2013, 11:09 AM

JB is ~$400 if you get the Tuner and CAN Tool for scanning and clearing codes. Closer to $300 for just the Tuner.

rogerdiaz · 11-06-2013, 12:36 PM

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hope yours came with wood trim

Hahahahaha. Knock on fake walnut wood trim.

CT_335D · 11-08-2013, 04:38 PM

Well my OBD2 scanner came in today, plugged it into the port and read the following fault codes:

P0401 - Exhaust Gas Reduction Flow Insufficient Detection

P0102 - Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input

modobrew · 11-08-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CT_335D

Well my OBD2 scanner came in today, plugged it into the port and read the following fault codes:

P0401 - Exhaust Gas Reduction Flow Insufficient Detection

P0102 - Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input

What scanner did you get?

CT_335D · 11-08-2013, 07:17 PM

I ended up buying the Elm327 WIFI Wirless OBD2 Car Diagnostic Reader Scanner Scan Tool for iPhone.

Plugged it into the port, turned on Wi-Fi, connected to the scan tool, and read the fault codes

rockbien · 11-10-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CT_335D

Well my OBD2 scanner came in today, plugged it into the port and read the following fault codes:

P0401 - Exhaust Gas Reduction Flow Insufficient Detection

P0102 - Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input

I've been to the dealer 7 times since the beginning of Sep with similar codes P0402 and P0101. They seem to be trying the kitchen sink method. So far they replaced 6 injectors, MAF sensor, vacuum lines, EGR valve, EGR flow sensor, intake hose - in that order. SES came back so taking it in for the 8th time Tuesday. Every time I pick it up they say that they got it right this time.

I had them scope the intake and they said no signs of carbon build up. Hope they are right and maybe the issue is a vacuum leak or something.

taibanl · 11-10-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rockbien

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT_335D

Well my OBD2 scanner came in today, plugged it into the port and read the following fault codes:

P0401 - Exhaust Gas Reduction Flow Insufficient Detection

P0102 - Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input

I've been to the dealer 7 times since the beginning of Sep with similar codes P0402 and P0101. They seem to be trying the kitchen sink method. So far they replaced 6 injectors, MAF sensor, vacuum lines, EGR valve, EGR flow sensor, intake hose - in that order. SES came back so taking it in for the 8th time Tuesday. Every time I pick it up they say that they got it right this time.

I had them scope the intake and they said no signs of carbon build up. Hope they are right and maybe the issue is a vacuum leak or something.

Sounds like they need to start a puma case to get you an New DDE

hrc630 · 11-14-2013, 08:28 AM

My car is at the dealer right now for the first time.
injector #2 trouble. The guy tell me they will replace the 3 injectors on the same bank to make sure. BUT... he tell me that my car have a trouble of compression

They will investiguate it today but its possible i need a new engine...
i have never have a single problem with the car and he pull really hard but now i really suspect the bad reliability of our 335d...

My car have 60,000 miles and is covered by to 100,000 miles.
No sign of carbon build up and i run that car REALLY hard ALL the time.

hrc630 · 11-14-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hrc630

My car is at the dealer right now for the first time.
injector #2 trouble. The guy tell me they will replace the 3 injectors on the same bank to make sure. BUT... he tell me that my car have a trouble of compression

They will investiguate it today but its possible i need a new engine...
i have never have a single problem with the car and he pull really hard but now i really suspect the bad reliability of our 335d...

My car have 60,000 miles and is covered by to 100,000 miles.
No sign of carbon build up and i run that car REALLY hard ALL the time.

Hère is the result...
Carbon build up, need a new head, intake etc...
More than $20,000 ....
I wait for the ok from BMW.

Mark M · 11-14-2013, 01:59 PM

Welcome to the club. Mine is in the dealer torn apart for the same exact thing. See my earlier thread on 'another plagued with soot'

montr · 11-14-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hrc630

Hère is the result...
Carbon build up, need a new head, intake etc...
More than $20,000 ....
I wait for the ok from BMW.

There were speculations by someone in Canada that the problem of soot buildup is unique to the USA because of fuel quality. This post confirm that it is not the case.

acewiza · 11-14-2013, 03:21 PM

I postulate the speculation factor in this forum to be ~.79.

hrc630 · 11-14-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by montr

There were speculations by someone in Canada that the problem of soot buildup is unique to the USA because of fuel quality. This post confirm that it is not the case.

Also, i can assure you that the theory of Puerto Rican:"if you beat it like you have stole it you will not have carbon build up" is not valide... I beat that car like hell (3 set of tire this summer) and i have the trouble ...
Also i always put V-Power fuel !!

Pierre Louis · 11-14-2013, 10:44 PM

Sorry to hear about the costly problems... good thing its under warranty.

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Originally Posted by hrc630

Also, i can assure you that the theory of Puerto Rican:"if you beat it like you have stole it you will not have carbon build up" is not valide... I beat that car like hell (3 set of tire this summer) and i have the trouble ...

I'm not really sure even our engine is meant to be pushed that hard, but would'nt think it should matter as to causing more carbon buildup.

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Also i always put V-Power fuel !!

This post refers to V-Power as not much more cetane than normal North American diesel:

Quote:

The cetane level of Shell V-Power Diesel will vary depending on a number of factors such as season and sources, but it will always exceed the CGSB standard of 40. Typical levels in Canada are in the 40 to 50 range and the cetane improver we add (to improve starting) will raise that by approximately one to two points.

F32Fleet · 11-15-2013, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hrc630

Hère is the result...
Carbon build up, need a new head, intake etc...
More than $20,000 ....
I wait for the ok from BMW.

$5k in US dollars.

CT_335D · 11-18-2013, 07:02 AM

So I picked up my car last Friday and found out they needed to replace the EGR valve. They charged me $50 copay since the car is CPO. I told them that the EGR valve is emission related and should be covered under 7 year/70k miles warranty, but the BMW rep told me only certain parts are covered and the EGR valve is not one of them.

CT_335D · 11-18-2013, 07:07 AM

Found this on the forum.

The following components are covered for defects by the California Emission Control System Limited Warranty for a period of 7 years or 70,000 miles, whichever comes first:

CATALYTIC CONVERTER

CYLINDER HEAD COVER GASKET

ENGINE CONTROL MODULE

EXHAUST MANIFOLD GASKET

EXHAUST MANIFOLD W/CATALYST

EXHAUST PIPE W/CATALYST

FUEL FILLER NECK
FUEL TANK
HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP

INTAKE MANIFOLD
INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER UNIT

OXYGEN SENSOR
THROTTLE BODY
TORQUE CONVERTER

TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE

TURBOCHARGER
VALVETRONIC SENSOR

VANOS (VVT) ADJUSTMENT UNIT

Pierre Louis · 11-18-2013, 07:18 AM

If its not covered, it should be optional!

F32Fleet · 11-18-2013, 07:55 AM

There is a warranty under CARB for "high cost" parts and there's a formula for making that determination.

Visit arb.ca.gov.

acewiza · 11-18-2013, 08:10 AM

Maybe CT_335D should move to Commiefornia to get his warranty work covered.

135i_vs_ · 11-18-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CT_335D

So I picked up my car last Friday and found out they needed to replace the EGR valve.

This EGR valve they replaced, is it the "redesigned EGR valve"?

What did they say was wrong with the EGR valve?

11-06-2013, 10:26 AM	#89
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11-06-2013, 11:09 AM	#90
modobrew First Lieutenant 31 Rep 363 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NC iTrader: (1)	JB is ~$400 if you get the Tuner and CAN Tool for scanning and clearing codes. Closer to $300 for just the Tuner.
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11-08-2013, 04:38 PM	#92
CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	Well my OBD2 scanner came in today, plugged it into the port and read the following fault codes: P0401 - Exhaust Gas Reduction Flow Insufficient Detection P0102 - Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input
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CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	I ended up buying the Elm327 WIFI Wirless OBD2 Car Diagnostic Reader Scanner Scan Tool for iPhone. Plugged it into the port, turned on Wi-Fi, connected to the scan tool, and read the fault codes Attached Images
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11-14-2013, 08:28 AM	#97
hrc630 Private 5 Rep 88 Posts Drives: BMW 335d 2009 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	My car is at the dealer right now for the first time. injector #2 trouble. The guy tell me they will replace the 3 injectors on the same bank to make sure. BUT... he tell me that my car have a trouble of compression They will investiguate it today but its possible i need a new engine... i have never have a single problem with the car and he pull really hard but now i really suspect the bad reliability of our 335d... My car have 60,000 miles and is covered by to 100,000 miles. No sign of carbon build up and i run that car REALLY hard ALL the time.
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Mark M Major 240 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: E30M3 E83X3 E90335D Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA iTrader: (0)	Welcome to the club. Mine is in the dealer torn apart for the same exact thing. See my earlier thread on 'another plagued with soot' __________________
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11-14-2013, 03:21 PM	#101
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11-18-2013, 07:02 AM	#105
CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	So I picked up my car last Friday and found out they needed to replace the EGR valve. They charged me $50 copay since the car is CPO. I told them that the EGR valve is emission related and should be covered under 7 year/70k miles warranty, but the BMW rep told me only certain parts are covered and the EGR valve is not one of them.
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11-18-2013, 07:07 AM	#106
CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	California Emission Control System Limited Warranty for a period of 7 years or 70,000 Found this on the forum. The following components are covered for defects by the California Emission Control System Limited Warranty for a period of 7 years or 70,000 miles, whichever comes first: CATALYTIC CONVERTER CYLINDER HEAD COVER GASKET ENGINE CONTROL MODULE EXHAUST MANIFOLD GASKET EXHAUST MANIFOLD W/CATALYST EXHAUST PIPE W/CATALYST FUEL FILLER NECK FUEL TANK HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP INTAKE MANIFOLD INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER UNIT OXYGEN SENSOR THROTTLE BODY TORQUE CONVERTER TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE TURBOCHARGER VALVETRONIC SENSOR VANOS (VVT) ADJUSTMENT UNIT
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11-18-2013, 07:18 AM	#107
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11-18-2013, 07:55 AM	#108
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11-18-2013, 08:10 AM	#109
acewiza Banned 3 Rep 115 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	Maybe CT_335D should move to Commiefornia to get his warranty work covered.
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