ECU flash guys - how many limp modes you got with your tune ?

e.n335 · 11-01-2009, 01:33 AM

I am interested how many limp modes 335i owners got with their ECU flash. Don't care about which flash you use ( GIAC, ESS, Evotech, Noelle, Daehler, Schnitzer, Hartge, Hamann, Kelleners, Regelin, etc ).

Codes due to aftermarket DP's or OEM HPFP issuês should not be counted in.

Thank you.
Eugen

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-01-2009, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

I am interested how many limp modes 335i owners got with their ECU flash. Don't care about which flash you use ( GIAC, ESS, Evotech, Noelle, Daehler, Schnitzer, Hartge, Hamann, Kelleners, Regelin, etc ).

Codes due to aftermarket DP's or OEM HPFP issuês should not be counted in.

Thank you.
Eugen

No limp mode with the Evotech flash. Half-engine light went on several times (but ever more rarely these last months), though.

With the ESS flash I got limp mode every time I went WOT, but that's another story.

Alpina_B3_Lux

enrita · 11-01-2009, 04:27 AM

Never got a limp with both Giac stage 1 and Giac stage 2 Beta.

fuzzy123 · 11-01-2009, 04:57 AM

Have had the GIAC flash for months... No limps or codes

e.n335 · 11-01-2009, 05:16 AM

I use a derivate of Evotech / Noelle from Daehler. No codes at all since quite a long time.

e.n335 · 11-01-2009, 05:20 AM

Who are the guys reporting more than 10 limp modes ? What tune, which supporting mods ?

Well, even a stock car can limp, but that often ?

GeorgeSmooth · 11-01-2009, 08:01 AM

I once got a gearbox code on a specific file my tuner made. This was prior to when he re-did the gearbox software. I got a red cog and had to pull over and restart the car. Since he found certain torque limiters have never seen the engine check light.

Graystone · 11-01-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Never got a limp with both Giac stage 1 and Giac stage 2 Beta.

What stage 2.........hasnt come out yet..Right?

Graystone · 11-01-2009, 02:37 PM

Do tell about the Beta...............please please...

skim7x · 11-01-2009, 05:15 PM

0 with Dinan... not sure if you wanted to include Dinan in your poll...

Mr. 5 · 11-01-2009, 05:42 PM

I do a lot of driving and have never had a limp since I had the GIAC flash installed.

I remember one time I was doing some runs with another member that had a JB3 and he had to pull over and do a restart since he got a limp for some reason.

BTW, you should have made the poll so we can see who voted because it would be interesting if a bunch of members with piggies were voting the "more than 10" vote LOL!

TwinTurboXI · 11-01-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I do a lot of driving and have never had a limp since I had the GIAC flash installed.

I remember one time I was doing some runs with another member that had a JB3 and he had to pull over and do a restart since he got a limp for some reason.

BTW, you should have made the poll so we can see who voted because it would be interesting if a bunch of members with piggies were voting the "more than 10" vote LOL!

Right

enrita · 11-02-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I do a lot of driving and have never had a limp since I had the GIAC flash installed.

I remember one time I was doing some runs with another member that had a JB3 and he had to pull over and do a restart since he got a limp for some reason.

BTW, you should have made the poll so we can see who voted because it would be interesting if a bunch of members with piggies were voting the "more than 10" vote LOL!

i think that most people with piggies tries to run to high/extreme settings/maps when doing pulls than the usually have for standard daily driving , hence the limps.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-02-2009, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Never got a limp with both Giac stage 1 and Giac stage 2 Beta.

@enrita: Did you update your DME before flashing? I ask this because here in Europe we usually have newer ISTA/ProgMan versions than in the US, and I don't want to flash mine back to stock when the GIAC stage 2 comes out and then get into trouble because GIAC hasn't yet adapted their flash to such new version. Any thoughts?

Alpina_B3_Lux

e.n335 · 11-02-2009, 03:33 PM

Not enrita but I always let the ECU software update to the latest version in advance of a new flash, did it the last past cars and still do so with the 335i. Only good experience here. Worst case the tuning company has to apply their changes to your latest ECU file, which takes a little more time for them but I had no additional costs or downsides up to now.

Cheers,
Eugen

enrita · 11-02-2009, 05:20 PM

I still have the original DME from the factory, i have refused to update to the laggy one. I drove on laggy car and that was enough for me .
Giac reads your file first and than modify parts of it. They dont replace the whole file. They do it pretty quickly. Took 2 days for them to do my file after reading it.

Potty_Pants · 11-02-2009, 06:05 PM

kinda funny dinan wasnt mentioned...

0 for me.

ppp

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-03-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

I still have the original DME from the factory, i have refused to update to the laggy one. I drove on laggy car and that was enough for me .
Giac reads your file first and than modify parts of it. They dont replace the whole file. They do it pretty quickly. Took 2 days for them to do my file after reading it.

Ok I see, that makes sense - as I don't have the lag-problem with my MDS81, I'll do just as Eugen and update it before the flash.

However, as I'll be flashing it not where I live but in Paris, it would be quite impractical to wait for two days until they've finished programming. Is there another way they can access my file so I can just have it uploaded once I go to the GIAC distributor in Paris? Or how did you do that in your case?

Alpina_B3_Lux

enrita · 11-03-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux

Ok I see, that makes sense - as I don't have the lag-problem with my MDS81, I'll do just as Eugen and update it before the flash.

However, as I'll be flashing it not where I live but in Paris, it would be quite impractical to wait for two days until they've finished programming. Is there another way they can access my file so I can just have it uploaded once I go to the GIAC distributor in Paris? Or how did you do that in your case?

Alpina_B3_Lux

My GIAC shop is 40 km away from where i live... quite lucky. I guess you will have to talk to the Paris shop which should than ask GIAC if they can fix your file in 1 day . Take 1 hour to read, than they have to send it to the US, i guess they can work on it after 5pm CET time an you could flash the car next day in the morning.

ar design · 11-03-2009, 09:01 AM

ESS - zero issues, ever.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-03-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

My GIAC shop is 40 km away from where i live... quite lucky. I guess you will have to talk to the Paris shop which should than ask GIAC if they can fix your file in 1 day . Take 1 hour to read, than they have to send it to the US, i guess they can work on it after 5pm CET time an you could flash the car next day in the morning.

I think that's what I'll do. I'm sure I can work something out with them. However, Austin still has not got back to me regarding my latest PN...he seems to be somewhat busy

Alpina_B3_Lux

View Poll Results: How many limp modes you got with your ECU flash
Zero	20	55.56%
1 to 3	6	16.67%
3 to 10	4	11.11%
More than 10	6	16.67%
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11-01-2009, 01:33 AM	#1
e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	ECU flash guys - how many limp modes you got with your tune ? I am interested how many limp modes 335i owners got with their ECU flash. Don't care about which flash you use ( GIAC, ESS, Evotech, Noelle, Daehler, Schnitzer, Hartge, Hamann, Kelleners, Regelin, etc ). Codes due to aftermarket DP's or OEM HPFP issuês should not be counted in. Thank you. Eugen
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11-01-2009, 04:27 AM	#3
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,378 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Never got a limp with both Giac stage 1 and Giac stage 2 Beta. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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fuzzy123 Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 238 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i Coupe [10.00]	Have had the GIAC flash for months... No limps or codes __________________ GIAC Stage 1 Flash\| Vorsteiner Carbon Fiber Bootlid \| KW Variant 2 \| RPI Scoops \| BMS DCI \| Eisenmann Race \| Synapse BOV \| 35% Tint \| Aero Lip \| 6000K HID Headlights & Fogs \| PIAA Angel Eyes \| Clear Bra \| RR Catch Can
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11-01-2009, 05:16 AM	#5
e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	I use a derivate of Evotech / Noelle from Daehler. No codes at all since quite a long time.
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11-01-2009, 05:20 AM	#6
e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Who are the guys reporting more than 10 limp modes ? What tune, which supporting mods ? Well, even a stock car can limp, but that often ?
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11-01-2009, 08:01 AM	#7
GeorgeSmooth Lieutenant 38 Rep 565 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335i AT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	I once got a gearbox code on a specific file my tuner made. This was prior to when he re-did the gearbox software. I got a red cog and had to pull over and restart the car. Since he found certain torque limiters have never seen the engine check light. __________________ 08 E90 335i AT RB Turbos -NX Wet Kit - Chiplogic Flash or Procede V5- M3 Diff - AE Exhaust- Forge Dv's - Helix Intercooler - AR DP's - P3 Boost Gauge - Vishnu Meth- Stett Chargepipe and CAI 09 C63
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11-01-2009, 02:37 PM	#9
Graystone First Lieutenant 23 Rep 342 Posts Drives: 335i sport euro 6mt Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The World iTrader: (1)	Do tell about the Beta...............please please...
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skim7x Colonel 208 Rep 2,558 Posts Drives: 335i, C63 AMG Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [10.00]	0 with Dinan... not sure if you wanted to include Dinan in your poll... __________________ '07 Space Gray 335i coupe - R.I.P. COBB ProTuned \| AMS \| CP-e \| BMS \| Quaife
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 753 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	I do a lot of driving and have never had a limp since I had the GIAC flash installed. I remember one time I was doing some runs with another member that had a JB3 and he had to pull over and do a restart since he got a limp for some reason. BTW, you should have made the poll so we can see who voted because it would be interesting if a bunch of members with piggies were voting the "more than 10" vote LOL! __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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11-02-2009, 03:33 PM	#15
e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Not enrita but I always let the ECU software update to the latest version in advance of a new flash, did it the last past cars and still do so with the 335i. Only good experience here. Worst case the tuning company has to apply their changes to your latest ECU file, which takes a little more time for them but I had no additional costs or downsides up to now. Cheers, Eugen
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11-02-2009, 05:20 PM	#16
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,378 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	I still have the original DME from the factory, i have refused to update to the laggy one. I drove on laggy car and that was enough for me . Giac reads your file first and than modify parts of it. They dont replace the whole file. They do it pretty quickly. Took 2 days for them to do my file after reading it. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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11-03-2009, 09:01 AM	#20
ar design 295 Rep 4,408 Posts Drives: 04 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (9)	ESS - zero issues, ever. __________________ -Critter
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