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      11-09-2013, 07:23 PM   #1
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New rotors - vibration at hard braking

Just installed cross-drilled, slotted rotors (ECS) with Hawk ceramic pads. They work great and no dust. However, since installation I notice a vibration on hard braking. It manifests as more sound than shudder - in other words I can hear it kind of loud, but I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel or anything. Sounds like running over grooved pavement, but a little more subtle.

Is this normal for CD/S rotors?

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Yes normal as far as I know. I have had slotted rotors for over a year and have a hum during hard braking also
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Just installed cross-drilled, slotted rotors (ECS) with Hawk ceramic pads. They work great and no dust. However, since installation I notice a vibration on hard braking. It manifests as more sound than shudder - in other words I can hear it kind of loud, but I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel or anything. Sounds like running over grooved pavement, but a little more subtle.

>AHEM<

Pads're running over grooved rotors.
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I just had cool carbons installed with ECS 2 piece slotted and drilled rotors and yes, they're noisy. It almost sounds like a jet engine powering down when I'm braking hard.
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Thanks guys - a load off my mind.

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I just had cool carbons installed with ECS 2 piece slotted and drilled rotors and yes, they're noisy. It almost sounds like a jet engine powering down when I'm braking hard.
Enjoyed the click-thru to your build thread. Sick car!
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Enjoyed the click-thru to your build thread. Sick car!
Thanks edrive90!

But yeah, the noise and vibration is definitely something a little unnerving at first haha.
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Just installed cross-drilled, slotted rotors (ECS) with Hawk ceramic pads. They work great and no dust. However, since installation I notice a vibration on hard braking. It manifests as more sound than shudder - in other words I can hear it kind of loud, but I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel or anything. Sounds like running over grooved pavement, but a little more subtle.

>AHEM&lt;

Pads're running over grooved rotors.
LOL^

Anyway you like the brakes from hawk ? I need rears soon
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A little squeaky, and not as bitey as OEM, but dust is gone :^)
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A little squeaky, and not as bitey as OEM, but dust is gone :^)
The lack of dust is a godsend. Just did my first track event and my wheels are almost as clean after as they were before I started!
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Squeaky??
Yeah, seems to be a common complaint of Hawk pads. Akebono not so much.

I bedded and re-bedded, but still get a little noise.
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Can you post a picture of the ECS Rotors? I am thinking of going with this setup but I have yet to see it actually installed on an E90.
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I also just installed (328i) Cool Carbon brake pads and slotted/drilled rotors and I noticed that there is a lot of vibration when braking between 80-40mph. Is this really normal?
I just had these installed a few days ago. I was thinking I needed an alignment, but was not sure if it was a bad install in the rotors or something is going wrong.
Will someone give me their 2 cents on this? It's really bothering me.
They are a bit noisy when braking, though.

Other than that, these are some good brakes!
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I also just installed (328i) Cool Carbon brake pads and slotted/drilled rotors and I noticed that there is a lot of vibration when braking between 80-40mph.
Is it really vibration, or just noise that sounds like vibration? Can you feel the vibration in the steering wheel?
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It's really vibration. I can literally feel the car vibrating when braking.
Also, it was really bad at one point, but now it's somewhat better.

But yeah, my wheel is shaking.

Should I continue driving the car or take it in for an alignment?

Thanks for the input!
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I found this site to be very helpful.

http://automotivethinker.com/brakes-...d-and-warping/
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Shaking steering wheel when applying the brakes is from the rotors. They are either not true or you have pad material that transfered to the rotor. I have driven many cars with ceramic brakes with this issue.
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Shaking steering wheel when applying the brakes is from the rotors. They are either not true or you have pad material that transfered to the rotor. I have driven many cars with ceramic brakes with this issue.
What do you suggest I do?

is there anyway I can fix this?
Or should I return the rotors and brakes.

I do have warranty on them.

Also, when is it necessary to bleed the brakes?
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Shaking steering wheel when applying the brakes is from the rotors. They are either not true or you have pad material that transfered to the rotor. I have driven many cars with ceramic brakes with this issue.
What do you suggest I do?

is there anyway I can fix this?
Or should I return the rotors and brakes.

I do have warranty on them.

Also, when is it necessary to bleed the brakes?
Did you bed the pads properly?

Usually most issues with cool carbons are from improper bedding procedures.

I bedded in mine right after I had them installed with the ECS 2 piece slotted/drilled rotors and whilst they are noisy when braking at high speeds (sounds like a jet engine powering down) I haven't noticed much vibration.

There was one time I noticed some vibration on the track but it went away by the next turn.
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It's really vibration. I can literally feel the car vibrating when braking.
Sounds like a warped rotor to me. I'd take it back in to have it checked.
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Thanks guys!
I'm going to return the rotor. I do have warranty on them.
Hopefully that helps!

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