Help! Left over residue after Zaino treatment

shabakand · 12-28-2008, 07:20 PM

So I did the the "Zaino" program on my Jet Black 2009 335 coupe over the weekend: Dawn, Clay, ZPC, ZFX w/Z-5pro (3 coats). I also used Z-6 in between the Z-5 applications. After attempting the buff out the third and final sealant coat, there is some type of residue that cannot be buffed out. It is either the z-5 sealant, Z-6 enhancing spray, or a combination of the two. ( can it also be left over ZPC that was used prior to the sealant??). I am afraid to buff too hard as I may cause swirls....Any idea what I should do. I might also add that the temperature here in LA was around 55F-60F during the detail.

SP335 · 12-28-2008, 07:58 PM

Probably just built up sealant. Zaino can be a pain to remove. After a wash or 2 it will be gone. I would leave it and it should remove itself

shabakand · 12-28-2008, 08:33 PM

Thanks for the reply....I was going to put a final coat of Z-2pro next weekend, but I guess I will hold off...

BK · 12-28-2008, 10:18 PM

If your MF towel is soft, you can buff it off a bit harder without causing swirls. If you leave it on, you'll eventually get it off through regular washes, as SP335 said. But when I see spots like that, I prefer to take it off right away.

Try using less product next time. I'm sure you felt like you used very little, having seen the warnings about this, but you need to use even less than you think. When people complain about Zaino being difficult to remove, inevitably it's because they used a bit too much. I used to have the same complaint.

shabakand · 12-29-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BK

If your MF towel is soft, you can buff it off a bit harder without causing swirls. If you leave it on, you'll eventually get it off through regular washes, as SP335 said. But when I see spots like that, I prefer to take it off right away.

Try using less product next time. I'm sure you felt like you used very little, having seen the warnings about this, but you need to use even less than you think. When people complain about Zaino being difficult to remove, inevitably it's because they used a bit too much. I used to have the same complaint.

Go it, Thanks

shimshimhada · 12-29-2008, 07:05 AM

It's the Z5. Make sure you wait long enough for the product to dry (and like BK said, use less product). Then wipe down with clean MF towels, using new ones as each towel become too congested with sealant.

E90Brian · 12-29-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shabakand

So I did the the "Zaino" program on my Jet Black 2009 335 coupe over the weekend: Dawn, Clay, ZPC, ZFX w/Z-5pro (3 coats). I also used Z-6 in between the Z-5 applications. After attempting the buff out the third and final sealant coat, there is some type of residue that cannot be buffed out. It is either the z-5 sealant, Z-6 enhancing spray, or a combination of the two. ( can it also be left over ZPC that was used prior to the sealant??). I am afraid to buff too hard as I may cause swirls....Any idea what I should do. I might also add that the temperature here in LA was around 55F-60F during the detail.

I just applied Zaino products to my new 2009 E90 335i and used Z2 rather than Z5 and didn't use ZPC at all. On a new car, I'm surprised you needed to use ZPC and Z5. Was your paint in less-than-perfect condition?

shabakand · 12-29-2008, 01:16 PM

Looking Back, I probably shouldn't have used ZPC or clayed the vehicle. I probably ended up adding swirls and/or light scratches (as I am new to claying and polishing). I was just following the steps detailed on the sticky, "Performing your own new car prep". The Z-5 did seemed to cover any swirls/scratches the clay and ZPC may have added. For my own piece of mind, I am hoping that I didn't add additional swirls but rather they were there before and the dealership used some type of sealant/glaze to cover them up. Regardless, the are some light swirls/marrings present and I am a little bummed.

I am actually thinking of getting the car professionally detailed to correct any damage. If I choose to go this route, should I strip the car of all sealant I put on (using dawn again) before putting the car in the detailers hands? This way he can see what he is working with.

exceldetail · 12-29-2008, 09:21 PM

Shab, sorry about the phone calls earlier! Not sure what was going on with the connection, hope you received my message though.

shabakand · 12-29-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by exceldetail

Shab, sorry about the phone calls earlier! Not sure what was going on with the connection, hope you received my message though.

Patrick, I didn't seem to get any phone calls from you....I sent you an email though. Perhaps you can send me a PM with the contact information for the person you mentioned earlier today. Thanks again.

exceldetail · 12-30-2008, 12:05 AM

Shoot......my bad. That was a call prior to yours. I will check my emails and get to work on a reply for you asap.

12-28-2008, 07:20 PM	#1
shabakand New Member 1 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 09 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Help! Left over residue after Zaino treatment So I did the the "Zaino" program on my Jet Black 2009 335 coupe over the weekend: Dawn, Clay, ZPC, ZFX w/Z-5pro (3 coats). I also used Z-6 in between the Z-5 applications. After attempting the buff out the third and final sealant coat, there is some type of residue that cannot be buffed out. It is either the z-5 sealant, Z-6 enhancing spray, or a combination of the two. ( can it also be left over ZPC that was used prior to the sealant??). I am afraid to buff too hard as I may cause swirls....Any idea what I should do. I might also add that the temperature here in LA was around 55F-60F during the detail. Last edited by shabakand; 12-28-2008 at 07:37 PM.. Reason: Added details
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SP335 Private 3 Rep 85 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: none iTrader: (0)	Probably just built up sealant. Zaino can be a pain to remove. After a wash or 2 it will be gone. I would leave it and it should remove itself
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12-28-2008, 08:33 PM	#3
shabakand New Member 1 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 09 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the reply....I was going to put a final coat of Z-2pro next weekend, but I guess I will hold off...
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BK Smiling politely 165 Rep 7,931 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington DC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [9.00]	If your MF towel is soft, you can buff it off a bit harder without causing swirls. If you leave it on, you'll eventually get it off through regular washes, as SP335 said. But when I see spots like that, I prefer to take it off right away. Try using less product next time. I'm sure you felt like you used very little, having seen the warnings about this, but you need to use even less than you think. When people complain about Zaino being difficult to remove, inevitably it's because they used a bit too much. I used to have the same complaint. __________________ E90 330i Black Sapphire 6MT \| 991.1 C4 Platinum Silver 7MT
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12-29-2008, 07:05 AM	#6
shimshimhada Brigadier General 442 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	It's the Z5. Make sure you wait long enough for the product to dry (and like BK said, use less product). Then wipe down with clean MF towels, using new ones as each towel become too congested with sealant.
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12-29-2008, 01:16 PM	#8
shabakand New Member 1 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 09 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Looking Back, I probably shouldn't have used ZPC or clayed the vehicle. I probably ended up adding swirls and/or light scratches (as I am new to claying and polishing). I was just following the steps detailed on the sticky, "Performing your own new car prep". The Z-5 did seemed to cover any swirls/scratches the clay and ZPC may have added. For my own piece of mind, I am hoping that I didn't add additional swirls but rather they were there before and the dealership used some type of sealant/glaze to cover them up. Regardless, the are some light swirls/marrings present and I am a little bummed. I am actually thinking of getting the car professionally detailed to correct any damage. If I choose to go this route, should I strip the car of all sealant I put on (using dawn again) before putting the car in the detailers hands? This way he can see what he is working with.
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12-29-2008, 09:21 PM	#9
exceldetail New Member 0 Rep 24 Posts Drives: A gas hog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca. iTrader: (0)	Shab, sorry about the phone calls earlier! Not sure what was going on with the connection, hope you received my message though.
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12-30-2008, 12:05 AM	#11
exceldetail New Member 0 Rep 24 Posts Drives: A gas hog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca. iTrader: (0)	Shoot......my bad. That was a call prior to yours. I will check my emails and get to work on a reply for you asap.
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