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Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 12:46 PM

Can you also list running 17's and slicks on your time please as it quite clearly made a big difference.

Jules.

ps you need to swap our cars around, yours is the lighter weight E92 and mine the substantially heavier and much less aerodynamic E90...

SoYank · 05-01-2009, 12:46 PM

Carlos,

Suggest the following for your chart:

Get rid of the yellow
Get rid of the bold
Reduce font size
Add Reaction Time out to 0.000 seconds (may require drivers to resend the information)
Add 60' Time out to 0.000 seconds (may require drivers to resend the information)
Set Elapsed Time out to 0.000 seconds
Set Speed to 0.00 mph (or whatever the timing slips show)
Make all time colums formatted the same
Add column on left with ranking
Turn OFF row / column labels

E92Fan · 05-01-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude1

you need to swap our cars around, yours is the lighter weight E92 and mine the substantially heavier and much less aerodynamic E90...

PS - good try Jules, but you do realise the E92 is 65kgs heavier (comparing 335i E90 & E92) ??!!

dxb335d · 05-01-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude1

Can you also list running 17's and slicks on your time please as it quite clearly made a big difference.

Jules.

ps you need to swap our cars around, yours is the lighter weight E92 and mine the substantially heavier and much less aerodynamic E90...

Mate, there road legal tyres....

EVERYONE i also need what tyres everyone is running to put down on the table also

17" is irrelevant.

I actually think the e90 is more aero dynamic actually... I may be wrong, just a hunch though.

I know the 5series is more aero dynamic than the E92. I read some info on it. suprising i know.

dxb335d · 05-01-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoYank

Carlos,

Suggest the following for your chart:

Get rid of the yellow
Get rid of the bold
Reduce font size
Add Reaction Time out to 0.000 seconds (may require drivers to resend the information)
Add 60' Time out to 0.000 seconds (may require drivers to resend the information)
Set Elapsed Time out to 0.000 seconds
Set Speed to 0.00 mph (or whatever the timing slips show)
Make all time colums formatted the same
Add column on left with ranking
Turn OFF row / column labels

Hi mate, i said if everyone PM's me there slips i will make the table much more detailed.

I am not adding reaction time tho as its not needed or does not affect ET.

- Paul - · 05-01-2009, 01:07 PM

No 325i/320i etc?

dxb335d · 05-01-2009, 01:08 PM

No, No one has done a time.

Cant see them beating your time Paul.

E92Fan · 05-01-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Mate, there road legal tyres....

EVERYONE i also need what tyres everyone is running to put down on the table also

17" is irrelevant.

I actually think the e90 is more aero dynamic actually... I may be wrong, just a hunch though.

I know the 5series is more aero dynamic than the E92. I read some info on it. suprising i know.

Touchy touchy mate... Jules is having a bit of a laugh...!

And yes, you're right the 888s are road-legal... not exactly road-normal though?! You consciously switched to them to get a better time right?? Counts as a mod then, just like my downpipes/map etc... don't be shy, put your tyre mod up - no need to hide that!

And you're right - the E60 5er saloon is more aerodynamic than the E92, having a drag coefficient (cD) value of 0.27 compared to 0.30 for the E92. The E90 is worse off - 0.32cD

dxb335d · 05-01-2009, 01:43 PM

Tone, i will put it on there dont worry. But i also want everyone elses tire. I know a guy who runs my toyos all summer long.

Guys PM me ya slips, table needs updating.

I aint touchy tone, Jules wasnt joking either.

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92Fan

PS - good try Jules, but you do realise the E92 is 65kgs heavier (comparing 335i E90 & E92) ??!!

Specs I've seen for the 335d show the E90 to be heavier than the E92, albeit only slight - 15-20kgs.

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Mate, there road legal tyres....

EVERYONE i also need what tyres everyone is running to put down on the table also

17" is irrelevant.

I actually think the e90 is more aero dynamic actually... I may be wrong, just a hunch though.

I know the 5series is more aero dynamic than the E92. I read some info on it. suprising i know.

Totally relevant..................you know what I am getting at, any aid that is over and above std should be commented on, if you think that running fat 17's with semi slick R888 road/track tyres doesn't give you an advantage then get back down there on your 19s and post a 13 please.....

Good lad,

Jules.

dxb335d · 05-01-2009, 03:43 PM

Jules, it does not matter wheel size... Just tyre.

I cant believe you dont understand that?

PM your slip please and also what tyres you were running!

I rekon i could post close to the 13.0 with my conti's, ive never played around with pressures on them and also im launching differently now..

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92Fan

And you're right - the E60 5er saloon is more aerodynamic than the E92, having a drag coefficient (cD) value of 0.27 compared to 0.30 for the E92. The E90 is worse off - 0.32cD

So the E90 is less aerodynamic than the E92.....thought so, cheers Tone. I think I am also right about the weight of the two cars, but we'll see on that, however
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Jules.

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Tone, i will put it on there dont worry. But i also want everyone elses tire. I know a guy who runs my toyos all summer long.

Guys PM me ya slips, table needs updating.

I aint touchy tone, Jules wasnt joking either.

Come on, if you can't see when I am being a bit tongue in cheek by now then you never will.

Ref the tyres....road legal is one thing, road tyres and semi slicks are another, both are "road legal" but both give different levels of grip in certain conditions. They were a mod that have enhanced performance, so stick it up and be proud........it's not a dig.

Jules.

dxb335d · 05-01-2009, 03:53 PM

Yeah Jules darlin' i am going to update with said tyres in comments mate once everyone else has given me details i need to improve and update the table?!

What i meant buddy, was the 17" is irrelevant because there the same size as my 19"

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Jules, it does not matter wheel size... Just tyre.

I cant believe you dont understand that?

PM your slip please and also what tyres you were running!

I rekon i could post close to the 13.0 with my conti's, ive never played around with pressures on them and also im launching differently now..

Don't understand...WTF??

So why did you not stick 19 inch R888's on your original 19 in alloys then, why did you feel the need to find some 17s?

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Yeah Jules darlin' i am going to update with said tyres in comments mate once everyone else has given me details i need to improve and update the table?!

What i meant buddy, was the 17" is irrelevant because there the same size as my 19"

Yes the rolling radius is the same obviously, but the idea is normally to increase contact patch and allow the tyres to grip into the ground, this is achieved far easier with a fat side wall than a narrow side wall.

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude1

Don't understand...WTF??

So why did you not stick 19 inch R888's on your original 19 in alloys then, why did you feel the need to find some 17s?

Don't forget to answer this one please Fandagino.

G33 · 05-01-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude1

Don't understand...WTF??

So why did you not stick 19 inch R888's on your original 19 in alloys then, why did you feel the need to find some 17s?

cos u cant get Toyo 888s in 19inch

Dont forget the back seat down mod too! :d

E92Fan · 05-01-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jude1

I think I am also right about the weight of the two cars, but we'll see on that, however does it really matter

Jules.

Sorry buddy, but you can't win this one... E92 is heavier...

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G33

cos u cant get Toyo 888s in 19inch

Dont forget the back seat down mod too! :d

Kin,

What you mean these would have been no good??

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...d=m12b0s2771p0

Shit, nearly forgot......can we include a section for which way the wind was blowing please? Not a mod but very important

Jude1 · 05-01-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Sorry buddy, but you can't win this one... E92 is heavier...

Tony,

I know you are the fountain of all knowledge BMW, but I need to see the specs, otherwise we'll have to organise a Weighbridge Shootout

Just checked the BMW website and it doesn't carry the correct data comparison for the E90/E92 335D, but it does have the correct comparative data for the 330d in both E90 and E92, it shows the E90 to be heavier - 1610kg v 1600kg...is the website wrong? Can't see why this would be different for the 335d?

E92 330d M-Sport -

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...=technicalSpec

E90 330d M-Sport

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...=technicalSpec

Jules

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