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      04-18-2013, 01:12 PM   #155
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Yo, you know who you are. Check it!



Big shout out for Shiv and the FFTEC boyz for pushing the limits. No disrespect to the other vendors as competition is a Win/Win for everyone. Just need to step up your game.

For all you haters, pull your tune and then ask yourself if your ride would be where it is today if it wasn't for Vishnu? Do you really think BMS would be were they are today without Shiv pushing the limits of tuning the N54? Do you really think COBB what have given two shits about the platform if they didn't see a market? Everyone who has done anything for the platform should get respect and you haters who shit on everything Shiv does need to grow the F up. You might not like him and he's well aware of that, but you don't have to like someone to respect them for who they are and what they have done. Cheers
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Wedge, was that addressed at little old me?
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Yo, you know who you are. Check it!



Big shout out for Shiv and the FFTEC boyz for pushing the limits. No disrespect to the other vendors as competition is a Win/Win for everyone. Just need to step up your game.

For all you haters, pull your tune and then ask yourself if your ride would be where it is today if it wasn't for Vishnu? Do you really think BMS would be were they are today without Shiv pushing the limits of tuning the N54? Do you really think COBB what have given two shits about the platform if they didn't see a market? Everyone who has done anything for the platform should get respect and you haters who shit on everything Shiv does need to grow the F up. You might not like him and he's well aware of that, but you don't have to like someone to respect them for who they are and what they have done. Cheers
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      04-18-2013, 01:36 PM   #158
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Wedge, was that addressed at little old me?
If the shoe fits you must be Cinderella, but I'm sure you have some ugly step sisters out there as well. haha

Hope you enjoyed the video.
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      04-18-2013, 01:38 PM   #159
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Haha, what? And sorry, didnt watch it
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Haha, what? And sorry, didnt watch it
No dis, just being sarcastic. Check out the video. It's actually really good.
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Good grief, talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees...
Great job Shiv and FFtec, and congrats CaptainInsano!
Thanks boss

Haha it's fine. At least the only thing they can complain about now is the smoothing.
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      04-18-2013, 01:56 PM   #162
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Thanks boss

Haha it's fine. At least the only thing they can complain about now is the smoothing.
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      04-18-2013, 01:57 PM   #163
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So it is safe now to run 91 oct with no meth huh? EGT data definitely helps

Either way, I'm happy for CaptainInsano
Thanks. I'll never run just 91oct though. It's not a commuter car anymore. I'd prefer to blow it up on race gas.
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So it is safe now to run 91 oct with no meth huh? EGT data definitely helps

Either way, I'm happy for CaptainInsano
Thanks. I'll never run just 91oct though. It's not a commuter car anymore. I'd prefer to blow it up on race gas.
Hahaha! If it's gonna blow, do it breaking records!
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      04-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #165
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Why is it standard operating procedure for you to yell troll, troll to any question you will not or can't answer.

We both know that an uncorrected smoothing 0 graph will read higher than a STD 0 graph. Changing from 5 to 0 will also add a few whp.The question is by how much. Playing with my own graphs it looks like using the same criteria as the Vargas graphs your first to 700HP & your [world record] are not what they would seem to be.
You need to change your tune if smoothing really makes a few whp difference. Vishnu tune is much smoother and smoothing makes 1-1.5 whp difference. Vargas does not show the true data as the correction factor is unknown, so hiding the true figures would be more apples to apples? Wow. Why not ask Vargas to show uncorrected true data instead? Yes, the 700 is not 700, it is more than that. Or are you saying that 715 is less than 700 because your own tune is so crappy that smoothing affects several whp? Perhaps Shiv should show how much more he actually made? Hating for 1 whp is ridiculous when he has clearly made more than 700whp.
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Perhaps Shiv should show how much more he actually made? Hating for 1 whp is ridiculous when he has clearly made more than 700whp.
He did show more, sort of, its the graph with all the detail blacked out. Instead of all the drama why not just post a few graphs using his brand new for him graph along with the ones everybody else uses. If his are a better way to show meaningful data then I am sure everybody else will switch how they post dyno graphs.
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      04-18-2013, 02:33 PM   #167
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He did show more, sort of, its the graph with all the detail blacked out.
It's probably a Scion dyno.
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      04-18-2013, 03:10 PM   #168
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This is great to see. Competition helps the aftermarket push the platform and, makes things cheaper and more reliable for us. Way to go Vargas!
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      04-18-2013, 03:43 PM   #169
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nice. not impressed.

stevos were makin this power out of 2l i4 4wd platform 10years ago within 2 years of being on the market. supras were doing this 20 years ago

1500whp or go home.
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      04-18-2013, 03:46 PM   #170
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nice. not impressed.

stevos were makin this power out of 2l i4 4wd platform 10years ago within 2 years of being on the market. supras were doing this 20 years ago

1500whp or go home.
On stock internals?
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      04-18-2013, 03:55 PM   #171
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nice. not impressed.

stevos were makin this power out of 2l i4 4wd platform 10years ago within 2 years of being on the market. supras were doing this 20 years ago

1500whp or go home.
LOLLLLLL.... 1500whp on the street is pointless. And they weren't making that kind of power on a stock motor.
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+1

no matter what, people are going to hate. it's to be expected and straight up comical. Here are the 2 possible outcomes from people who are here just to argue:

A. "SMOOTHING 0? WHY WOULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH RAW DATA WHICH IS MORE VALUABLE?!? USE SMOOTHING 5!!!"
B. "SMOOTHING 5? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?!? SHOW US THE RAW DATA!!!!"

rinse and repeat.
I called it when I was getting updates about the dyno. I said "they are still going to find something to bitch about". And here we are. Of course now it's just getting ridiculous...secret pump upgrades, not really running 91, etc. It's funny how people say this site is biased, yet both dynos from Vishnu/FFTEC and VTT are on the home page next to each other, with open discussions about both. Others choose to only showcase the VTT dyno and...well...good luck saying anything. This will probably be shared as a screenshot...hi guys!
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Let me put my surprise face on. Nobody is satisfied. Same Vishnu hates in every thread.... what happened to giving props to the people pushing this platform. Wedge hit the nail on the head, this platform would not be where it is without Vishnu. Before all the fanbois remarks begin I Dont have a Procede tune. I know where to give credit where its due though. Interestingly enough I Dont see the same Vishnu haters asking Vargas for his 10 second slips? His 60-130? Videos of the car driving? Doing pulls on the street? No datalogs? I've only seen 1 customer car and that was a stage 2. All we know is its running good. Yet if this was Vishnu turbo everyone would be thinking there is some huge conspiracy.

Seems a little weird how everyone is quick to knit pick all the details when shiv post something but other people blindly give props to a new turbo manufacturer who posted a few pics and a couple dynos. Then I see people already vouching for the product. For the record I'm not hating on Vargas, it can be anyone's twin turbo set up. Its just funny how the same lemmings are in here day in and day out criticizing the company that has pushed this platform since its inception.
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I want to know what the differences are between the vf700 and 6466 kits are that causes the huge price increase when the additional cost to procede was quoted at $300. Also, where are the diverter valves being diverted to on the ST cars? Wasn't there a huge discussion for a while about meth and BOVs was BAD?

Reason i am asking is not to stir shit up. It's because I am planning to buy the kit within the next month and just want to be fully informed and understand it all. I would also like to make a weekend trip out from here in OH to get a ride/drive one of these cars before making the purchase if possible. Shiv, can we work somethin out?
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I want to know what the differences are between the vf700 and 6466 kits are that causes the huge price increase when the additional cost to procede was quoted at $300. Also, where are the diverter valves being diverted to on the ST cars? Wasn't there a huge discussion for a while about meth and BOVs was BAD?

Reason i am asking is not to stir shit up. It's because I am planning to buy the kit within the next month and just want to be fully informed and understand it all. I would also like to make a weekend trip out from here in OH to get a ride/drive one of these cars before making the purchase if possible. Shiv, can we work somethin out?
I'd like @MikeB@fftec or Shiv to clarify, but I think that price may include the typical upgrades most people get with the existing kits, so it's not just an $1100 jump for the turbo alone.

I personally used Forge DV with K&N Filters, another ST owner has a similar setup. K&N refers to them as crankcase or oil breather filters.

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Correct. The only additional cost of the system on Captain Insano's car is that of the 6466 turbo. It adds ~$300 to the price of the standard VFF700 kit. You can get a complete price, with whatever options you want, through the website. No hidden/surprise costs.

Also, no appreciable amount of meth sprays out of the bypass valves since we close the methanol valve during lift throttle conditions
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