E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Canada > Canadian E90 Water Pump Failures



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-18-2013, 11:41 PM   #23
ah gon
Colonel
ah gon's Avatar
Canada
112
Rep
2,433
Posts

Drives: bmw e90
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: vancouver b.c. canada

iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dassub View Post
Good to hear!
Quote:
Originally Posted by asianstutter View Post
I wonder if this is true
i had checked out this post and found that most MT water pump still running after 120000km(of course some exception)....or maybe more people had AUTO tran. than MT tran.?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2013, 11:29 AM   #24
woodpecka
Major
woodpecka's Avatar
Canada
68
Rep
1,026
Posts

Drives: E91
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (2)

110 000 KM, still on the original pump and stat.

I think about changing the pump and stat to prevent the problem.
Appreciate 0
      02-21-2013, 06:44 PM   #25
MiroE90
Second Lieutenant
11
Rep
205
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i Jet Black
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Toronto, ON

iTrader: (4)

seems to be a N52 thing, any N54 peeps experience this?
Appreciate 0
      02-22-2013, 06:40 PM   #26
kol
Lieutenant Colonel
92
Rep
1,564
Posts

Drives: E92
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: (416/905)

iTrader: (47)

Garage List
E92 N54  [7.50]
n54 here, pump died and replaced under warranty at 85k
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-22-2013, 08:46 PM   #27
PA66400
Private First Class
Canada
16
Rep
154
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Calgary, AB

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MiroE90 View Post
seems to be a N52 thing, any N54 peeps experience this?
I think it more common overall on the N54. There are more N52s in service, so it may seem that more of them are mentioned, but the N54 runs a lot hotter underhood and the heat is what kills the pump electronics.
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2013, 11:44 AM   #28
MiroE90
Second Lieutenant
11
Rep
205
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i Jet Black
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Toronto, ON

iTrader: (4)

I see thank you for the feedback.

I'm at 73k right now, and i've some really hot runs in the summer.

Any way to forsee this or it just kacks at any given time without warning?
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2013, 02:56 PM   #29
PA66400
Private First Class
Canada
16
Rep
154
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Calgary, AB

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MiroE90 View Post
I see thank you for the feedback.

I'm at 73k right now, and i've some really hot runs in the summer.

Any way to forsee this or it just kacks at any given time without warning?
Mine just kacked one day. Was running perfectly the day before. No noises, smells, nothing. Started it up the next AM only to hear the engine fan running on max, despite a cold start at -10C. Shortly later, the dreaded yellow thermometer on the information centre, indicating overheat. Car goes into limp mode and you can't drive it on the highway without everyone honking and running you over.

The pumps are now coming down in price - can buy the OE pump made by Continental online for less than $400. I am just going to replace it every 100,000 kms. Not worth the cost of waiting for a catastrophic failure. I had to rent a car while my pump was getting replaced. The cost of a new pump and my DIY install every 100k is worth avoiding the hassle and extra cost of an unscheduled service.

BTW, my Calgary BMW dealer (Bmw Gallery) had 12 of these waterpumps on-hand in the parts department. This is a small dealership, compared to those in YVR and YYZ. ?Could there be a message here?!

Last edited by PA66400; 02-23-2013 at 03:07 PM..
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2013, 10:12 PM   #30
Shearer
Private First Class
13
Rep
157
Posts

Drives: '08 e90 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Vancouver, BC

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2008 e90 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by kol View Post
n54 here, pump died and replaced under warranty at 85k
exactly the same here
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2013, 06:13 PM   #31
slenfe
Private First Class
1
Rep
120
Posts

Drives: e90 330i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Milton

iTrader: (0)

pump went two weeks ago @ 166K on my e90 330I
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2013, 06:26 PM   #32
asianstutter
Second Lieutenant
11
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 2006 BMW 330xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by slenfe View Post
pump went two weeks ago @ 166K on my e90 330I
Where did you replace your pump? how much?
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2013, 06:33 PM   #33
ah gon
Colonel
ah gon's Avatar
Canada
112
Rep
2,433
Posts

Drives: bmw e90
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: vancouver b.c. canada

iTrader: (12)

bought my water pump + thermostat from getbmwparts.com.$470 something with free shipping within US.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2013, 06:37 PM   #34
asianstutter
Second Lieutenant
11
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 2006 BMW 330xi
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ah gon View Post
bought my water pump + thermostat from getbmwparts.com.$470 something with free shipping within US.
Did you have to pay for any custom or brokage fee?
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2013, 10:15 PM   #35
slenfe
Private First Class
1
Rep
120
Posts

Drives: e90 330i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Milton

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by asianstutter View Post
Where did you replace your pump? how much?
got mine done at maranello bmw, ask for Mike @ part and request maxbimmer price.
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 05:02 AM   #36
ah gon
Colonel
ah gon's Avatar
Canada
112
Rep
2,433
Posts

Drives: bmw e90
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: vancouver b.c. canada

iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by asianstutter View Post
Did you have to pay for any custom or brokage fee?
too bad i need to pay tax.
but still cheaper than get it from local(....about $100 cheaper.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 08:43 AM   #37
bamboostk86
Lieutenant
bamboostk86's Avatar
Canada
32
Rep
567
Posts

Drives: 2007 328i
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: mississauga

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2007 328I E93  [10.00]
2009 bmw X3  [0.00]
Mine went yesterday 98,000k super hot day my cars stick 07 328i
__________________

Stay clean my friends
Appreciate 0
      07-08-2013, 10:47 PM   #38
TheBingoBalls
Brigadier General
TheBingoBalls's Avatar
Canada
3820
Rep
4,659
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Around 130k. I think once you hit over 100k, it's only a matter of time until the water pump goes. T-Stat still good though.
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2013, 12:03 AM   #39
Nikos335i
Brigadier General
Nikos335i's Avatar
Greece
92
Rep
3,822
Posts

Drives: 2012 B8 S4 & 2013 F30 328xi
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2012 Audi S4  [9.00]
2007 E90 335i  [9.00]
2011 Audi A4 Avant  [10.00]
Not an E90 but my wifes '06 530xi (N52 engine) died at about 120 000km in the dead of winter.
__________________
'12 B8 S4 Ice Silver on Black/Premium/DSG/Sport Diff/Nav/Carbon Inlays/19' Titanium Wheels/RS4 Grill/AWE exhaust/Alu Kreuz/H&R OE/Pagid RS19
'13 F30 328xi Sapphire Black/Coral Red/Sportline/gloss black with matte red/Style 397 18" wheels
gone: '07 E90 335i, Alpine White/Black with aluminum/sport/ steptronic/paddles/premium/Logic7
gone: '06 E61 530xi Sapphire Black/Black with aluminum/premium/panoramic sunroof/Logic7/PDC
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2013, 08:44 AM   #40
e90Nate
Colonel
Canada
285
Rep
2,146
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Canada

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
my thermostat went at 88k luckily mine was covered under cpo. thermostat was fine.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2013, 09:08 AM   #41
Tzu
Lieutenant Colonel
Canada
29
Rep
1,551
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
06 330i at 150k on original. But I have a spare on hand once it goes.
Same here.

137k, original pump. My pump holds full requested duty cycle though. It's good to buy a spare pump early since they seem to be always in hot demand...
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2013, 10:14 AM   #42
Mike@N54Tuning.com
Joint Chiefs of Staff
Canada
4912
Rep
115,980
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N54tuning.com

iTrader: (89)

Mine just went a week ago.. 145K

Mike
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2013, 10:22 AM   #43
ians
Major
ians's Avatar
Canada
40
Rep
1,283
Posts

Drives: 08 E92 335i 6MT, 04 TSX 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Mine went 2 mth ago, 08 MT with only 78000km
__________________
08 Montego Blue E92 335i 6MT sp Navi with beige interior
aero front, Mtech side, M rear lip spoiler, hid fog, 19" Work Varianza T1S, KW V2, Mtech steering wheel, shift knob, e-brake handle & alumnium pedal
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2013, 01:35 PM   #44
prez34
Private First Class
Canada
8
Rep
105
Posts

Drives: BM-Dub
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada

iTrader: (2)

Mine went a few months back @ 90km....I ended up having a long debate with a dealership and BMW Canada which ended with me keeping a $640 bill even though the car was under CPO warranty. The invoice should be close to $300 when a few members compared invoices

Coles notes:
- Car overheated and went to limp mode
- Towed to Dealership
- Dealership advised that they cannot look at car because I do not have an appointment and will fit in when possible (didn’t know I can predict when car will breakdown to schedule a future appointment – guess I wasn’t given the BMW crystal ball during the delivery process)
- Issue was diagnosed 4.5 days later as water pump failure
- Car fixed and CPO invoice for the work was $640. Paid and left.
- Few weeks later saw a post of another member in the Canada thread with Car overheating issue. His car was repaired under CPA and his invoice was under $300
- PM’d him for details of invoice, he was charged for thermostat, minimal labor, and CPO deductible
- I was charged labor for the entire job, so it looked like only the water pump part was covered by CPO at the dealership I went to
- I had many calls, emails and escalations to dealership and was told it was properly charged out.
- Escalated to BMW Canada and was told they do not control how CPO work is charged out. Each dealership can charge varying rates for identical work
- Out of frustration, I e-mailed multiple GTA dealerships inquiring how a water pump/thermostat job would be invoiced under CPO warranty….the dealers that responded came back with the lower cost of $300. Where labor and water pump part costs were covered by CPO.
- Shared this info with BMW Canada, but was told they can do nothing and they will not help any further

Lesson learned here….”if possible” ask multiple dealerships how CPO will be invoiced and you can save $

IDEA - Start a thread on the site to compare costs of similar work between members. Then we can track “honest” dealerships / shops.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:09 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST