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      02-01-2012, 08:18 PM   #23
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People argue the "heat soak" makes it lose power.

BS

Also they argue the MAF issue where it doesnt fit in correctly cause surging in power in the engine.

Truthful.
Any sound clips of your injen? Does it throw a engine code?
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Any sound clips of your injen? Does it throw a engine code?
No sound clips. Very hard to replicate the real life sound on a youtube video or something. See if anyone local has one. all I can say is it sounds great and over 4000k wot it screams. Very good euro sound. No engine codes whatsoever. Fits great, looks good, sounds good. Im happy with mine.

I also bought the 40 CYBA scoops and figure the extra air coming up through cant hurt. So far love the combo.
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      02-01-2012, 09:35 PM   #25
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People argue the "heat soak" makes it lose power.

BS

Also they argue the MAF issue where it doesnt fit in correctly cause surging in power in the engine.

Truthful.
You can either buy one and see for yourself or look on the net. There ws some extensive testing done by RPI on the e60 5 series with both the n52 and their v8 model with a very similar intake design. Also with a 330 with the afe open intake design.

The heat shield is a joke. I used to have this on a car. It heats up so quickly that it does nothing. Also the top of the thing does not seal when the roof closes and allows a bunch of hot engine air to be sucked in, especially in summer when the engine really heats up.

The reason a 335 or any turbo can get away with a open intake system is because the air that gets sucked in goes through the intercooler as its goes to the turboes and engine and therefore heat is really taken out via that. Also since a turbo creates so much heat and relies on forcing air into the system, heat is much more parasitic on a NA engine compared to a FI engine.

You notice afe changed their design to a closed system? Why would they waste the time and money to do this if their open design was working.

So anyone can do what they like but I have felt the loss with afe. The m3 has the ideal air intake system because its completely sealed with exception to an opening pathway out the top of the hood. This not only creates a third path for air but also lets all of the sound out and therefore you do not compromise any sound for a sealed box. Its LOUD and functional. Also has a direct path from the bottom left gaping hole and through the kidney's. I wish that much thought went into all intakes for bmws.
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Stay away from K&N filters. Buy yourself something quality, even if just for the sound. Nothing that is sold at pep boys should make its way into your car unless it's an air freshener.
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No sound clips. Very hard to replicate the real life sound on a youtube video or something. See if anyone local has one. all I can say is it sounds great and over 4000k wot it screams. Very good euro sound. No engine codes whatsoever. Fits great, looks good, sounds good. Im happy with mine.

I also bought the 40 CYBA scoops and figure the extra air coming up through cant hurt. So far love the combo.
What are 40 CYBA scoops? Im a complete n00b
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What are 40 CYBA scoops? Im a complete n00b
$40 air scoops that direct air from the kidney grilles in front of your car into the intake funnel. Its debateable whether or not they do anything. My personal opinion is that they cant hurt and are directing alot of air right up into the intake. Like a ram air for our cars.

Brand name costs 100$

Cyba (vendor on here) are $40 same thing.

People will argue them until their blue in the face along with many other things. I cant see how it hurts by having more air to the intake.

All personal opinions and such on here.

Heres a link to them

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=cyba+scoops
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Stay away from K&N filters. Buy yourself something quality, even if just for the sound. Nothing that is sold at pep boys should make its way into your car unless it's an air freshener.
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ECStuning has the k&n filter for euro intake and that is a good price. I couldn't find the filter just now but here it is on amazon......

......IMO, euro intake best bang for your buck. I was about to get it but I realized my intake takes in more air anyway. Here's how my intake makes my exhaust sound much better.
It's mixed in with other filters, HERE is a link to the K&N for the Euro Intake.


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I found the Euro intake for sale on the below link. Is this a good price? I live in Canada so the shipping will be quiet a bit too.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330i-N52_3.0L/Engine/Intake/ES2072577/

What are the main advantages of the Euro intake vs the AFE intake for instance? Does it give yo more power? Better sound?

Where can you buy the K&N drop in filter for it? Is it just plug and play? Replaces the stock air box with 100% fit?

Sorry about all the questions its just that its a lot of money and i want to make sure i know what i am getting.
The Euro intake is an BMW designed air box, where the aFe is a cone style intake with a heat shielded casing. As far as which will be louder, looking at the designs of both intakes I would assume the aFe intake (found HERE) will be louder.

The Euro Air Box (found HERE) is a direct drop in. Just takes a few minutes to remove some screws and such and bolt in the new air box.

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$40 air scoops that direct air from the kidney grilles in front of your car into the intake funnel. Its debateable whether or not they do anything. My personal opinion is that they cant hurt and are directing alot of air right up into the intake. Like a ram air for our cars.

Brand name costs 100$

Cyba (vendor on here) are $40 same thing.

People will argue them until their blue in the face along with many other things. I cant see how it hurts by having more air to the intake.

All personal opinions and such on here.

Heres a link to them

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=cyba+scoops
Cool thanks
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ya but i cant compare to euro box since i dont have one. I wasnt able to get many as many runs in as i would have liked. Plus my car is running like poo due to no o2 sim! So this was the best i got did 4 pulls to avg the hp numbers. I have dyno charts just need to scan them and upload.

Base dyno with factory air box 213hp Avg (Stock fram filter and charcole filter still in place)
Injen intake 209hp Avg (All sound)
My modded box 218hp Avg (closed hood)

Overall for a $45 mod and pickin up 5 hp is ok in my books lol

I think my modded box would be better with a true cold air set up. Witch what im working on now. But i closed the hood to see what real numbers would be since i made an opening on the front of the box and i didnt want the fan to give that box the advantage.
Damn, so the injen really does loose hp. Its such a shame cause it sounds soo good. Hey, I know your looking for a factory air box to experiment on. Would you trade the current apex box for my factory box?
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      02-02-2012, 10:20 PM   #33
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I notice there are 2 intakes that ECStuning is selling. Is this the better one?

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330...take/ES519250/
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I notice there are 2 intakes that ECStuning is selling. Is this the better one?

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330...take/ES519250/

The kit found HERE is the Pro 5R Air Intake System. This kit uses oiled cotton gauze media filter. Oiled cotton gauze media filters are considered life time filters, as long as you clean and re-oil them properly they have attendance to last the life of a vehicle.

The kit found HERE is the aFe Pro DryS Stage 2 Air Intake System. The dry system uses a washable synthetic media filtration filter. What this means is when it gets extremely dirty you can wash it, allow it to dry and replace it a few times. Some people prefer this style filter as there is no oiling of the filter. These filters do eventually need replacing.

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Will Bmw performance give nice sound for 330i ? i just ordered one..
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Will Bmw performance give nice sound for 330i ? i just ordered one..
Not really. A bit more high pitched i spose, but i have mine paried with the exhaust so i can't say for certain.

if you want sound the BMW PI isn't the way to go
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Ok so after reading various threads about Afe and injen intakes, i will not be buying either one of them. I do not want to pay money to lose power and have headaches with my engine light coming on potentially or car running like crap.

I still want to get a intake however. The Eurobox is an attractive one because i have read that it really frees up air flow and makes the engine rev better and feel more responsive. Can any one tell me if the Eurobox intake sounds ANY nicer than the OEM intake?

I would also like to know more about the Simota intake. I will use search tomorrow and read up on it, however can someone tell me what the price is usually of these intakes? Also, i can not find it for sale any where online...??

Thanks!
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T1mmy, thank you i got my car at schmiedmann for Intake / Sport Exhaust with
2x 100mm "335" exhaust. And BDM Chip

I ordered simota intake, but they said they would give me % so i got Performance for at same price. i realy hope this packet give a nice sound and some horse ofcourse
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RingBredE90 . They have problems with it at the time with the new carbon box,
have problems it crack,
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      02-08-2012, 02:38 PM   #40
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Ok so after reading various threads about Afe and injen intakes, i will not be buying either one of them. I do not want to pay money to lose power and have headaches with my engine light coming on potentially or car running like crap.

I still want to get a intake however. The Eurobox is an attractive one because i have read that it really frees up air flow and makes the engine rev better and feel more responsive. Can any one tell me if the Eurobox intake sounds ANY nicer than the OEM intake?

I would also like to know more about the Simota intake. I will use search tomorrow and read up on it, however can someone tell me what the price is usually of these intakes? Also, i can not find it for sale any where online...??

Thanks!
No one really has the intake that your link directs to. The afe stage 2 si version. I heard its not as loud as their open version but is closer to a bmw performance air intake. It also has a similar design to it. I think this one might actually work but no one really has it because of the price. I will be installing it in march.
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      02-08-2012, 07:17 PM   #41
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Any one know if the Eurobox intake sounds any better than the stock North American intake?
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      02-09-2012, 02:34 PM   #42
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Also, how much does the Simota intake cost usually? For a 2006 330i?
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