Why is there no 335xd?

sk_bmw · 07-06-2009, 01:59 AM

I have been told by a BMW sales person that the reason there is no 335xd is because the engine room is too small for all the required parts. Anyone know better?

Bangthemidget · 07-06-2009, 09:17 AM

325d engine itself has the size of a truck engine...

dakine · 07-06-2009, 10:27 AM

i've seen a 330xd before... they probably dont see a market for it... either that or the torque would rip the current trans to pieces??? your guess is as good as mine though.

str86diesel · 07-06-2009, 03:16 PM

I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I just had a loaner 335d and it was an awesome car. Way more peppy than my 335x drive and much better fuel mileage.

Park2670 · 07-07-2009, 08:34 PM

The market for the 335d is small enough, if they made an Xi they would only sell 10 a year!

AWD Addict · 07-08-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by str86diesel

I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I just had a loaner 335d and it was an awesome car. Way more peppy than my 335x drive and much better fuel mileage.

It's faster? Wow.

Drakos · 07-08-2009, 05:41 PM

There is no question that the D has more torque than its gas counterparts. I would have probably purchased a D but diesel prices are still way to high. I also don't think that they are as moddable as the i's.

Gibson6594 · 07-08-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AWD Addict

It's faster? Wow.

Not in 0-60 times, according BMWUSA.com.

str86diesel · 07-09-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AWD Addict

It's faster? Wow.

I'd say the 0-60 is comparable, I haven't timed them back to back, but when getting up to speed on the hwy or passing traffic, the 335d definitely got up to speed much quicker than my xi.

For both cars weighing about the same, the torque in the D was instant and the car just took off. Where as on my xi, you have to wait for the turbo's to spool and then the car moves, but you still never get the seat of the pants feeling in my car like the D, it really pushes you back into the seat

EDIT: I'll definitely be watching to see of BMW does this...I was just out there looking around and noticed that they have the X5 X0Drive35D....ohhh yeah

TurboFan · 07-14-2009, 09:58 PM

I wonder 2 things about a 335xd
1. Can the xDrive tranny handle the torque? Based upon the X6///M I think so, but maybe not in a compact size needed for a 3 series?
2. The diesel is about mileage. Why offer xDrive, which would only serve to diminish fuel mileage. The don't sell that many Xi's or 335d's, relative to the 335i sales.

sk_bmw · 09-09-2009, 03:51 AM

I got information straight from a BMW Group spokesperson.

It turns out the market segment for 335d is so small and the market segment for 335d with xDrive would be even smaller so it wouldn't be financially wise for BMW to introduce xDrive for 335d, investments vs. possible profit...

maswastage · 09-09-2009, 12:33 PM

I've seen a 335xd coupe in Europe, which is probably the strangest combination 3 series I've ever seen. It's a shame the US gets shafted on these kind of options.

chaz58 · 09-09-2009, 01:01 PM

The diesel has quite high gearing (probably due to torque and low RPM).

0-60 is similar, byt according to BMWDE, the passing times (80-120kmh) are a lot faster with the diesel variants.

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Originally Posted by Gibson6594

Not in 0-60 times, according BMWUSA.com.

Nikolas · 09-09-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by maswastage

I've seen a 335xd coupe in Europe, which is probably the strangest combination 3 series I've ever seen. It's a shame the US gets shafted on these kind of options.

It had to be a 330Xd. They don't make one - at least not for the german market and I'm pretty sure Germany gets every model.

chaz58 · 09-09-2009, 01:03 PM

Uh, no.

the only XID is the 330XID (as stated above).

Still, having owned a modified audi S4 with similar torque numbers, the AWD is fantastic with that torque. Just amazing. I can't imagine being handicaped with RWD and that much torque.

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Originally Posted by maswastage

I've seen a 335xd coupe in Europe, which is probably the strangest combination 3 series I've ever seen. It's a shame the US gets shafted on these kind of options.

Nikolas · 09-09-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz58

Uh, no.

the only XID is the 330XID (as stated above).

Still, having owned a modified audi S4 with similar torque numbers, the AWD is fantastic with that torque. Just amazing. I can't imagine being handicaped with RWD and that much torque.

You are correct except there is no "i". It's just 330Xd

Nikolas · 09-09-2009, 01:10 PM

Woops, actually we are both wrong.

It is 330d x-drive now.

maswastage · 09-09-2009, 02:03 PM

Are you guys sure? I could have sworn the back said 335xd, that's why it made an impression on me because it was such a strange combination on a coupe. But then again, I saw it in Bulgaria where debadging and rebadging is all too commonplace. Or I could just be mistaken...

GregL · 09-09-2009, 02:20 PM

I'd be delighted just to have a 330xd, you can chip those things to ~440ft-lb which is more than enough for me.

schnell325 · 09-09-2009, 02:24 PM

I'd buy a 335xd...touring please.

HERR FSTIR · 09-09-2009, 10:13 PM

Yeah, if they made a diesel 335x touring I would buy one tomorrow. That would be a great family cruiser.

xDrive Mike · 09-09-2009, 10:18 PM

It would be really nice if BMW would allow different engine and body packages under their Individual program. If so I would be all over a 335xi wagon either gas or diesel.

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TurboFan Ski bum 317 Rep 6,198 Posts Drives: sideways Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Knee deep in the pow iTrader: (8)	I wonder 2 things about a 335xd 1. Can the xDrive tranny handle the torque? Based upon the X6///M I think so, but maybe not in a compact size needed for a 3 series? 2. The diesel is about mileage. Why offer xDrive, which would only serve to diminish fuel mileage. The don't sell that many Xi's or 335d's, relative to the 335i sales. __________________ 1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired] 2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired] 2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon 2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
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sk_bmw New Member 2 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 E93 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orange County, California Area iTrader: (0)	I got information straight from a BMW Group spokesperson. It turns out the market segment for 335d is so small and the market segment for 335d with xDrive would be even smaller so it wouldn't be financially wise for BMW to introduce xDrive for 335d, investments vs. possible profit...
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maswastage Resident Diesel Junkie 56 Rep 1,070 Posts Drives: 2010 AW 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Are you guys sure? I could have sworn the back said 335xd, that's why it made an impression on me because it was such a strange combination on a coupe. But then again, I saw it in Bulgaria where debadging and rebadging is all too commonplace. Or I could just be mistaken...
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