[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Then why not call the category reflections?

I guess to further bring the point of the rule set, that should be explicitly defined.

The definitions have already been posted. Point is, those submissions are what the photographer has interpreted the meaning to be.

If the issue is that there's no image that contains a reflection, perhaps symmetry wasn't the correct theme to use for what your intentions were.

That being said, based on the rules, all the images are suitable IMHO.

Exactly- thank you! That's why I think virtually all the pictures submitted do fit the theme.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Then why not call the category reflections?

I guess to further bring the point of the rule set, that should be explicitly defined.

For example...





The definitions have already been posted. Point is, those submissions are what the photographer has interpreted the meaning to be.

If the issue is that there's no image that contains a reflection, perhaps symmetry wasn't the correct theme to use for what your intentions were.

That being said, based on the rules, all the images are suitable IMHO.

Originally Posted by BMW E90

Exactly- thank you! That's why I think virtually all the pictures submitted do fit the theme.

you guys crack me up.

there isn't something that says reflection has to be in it... I only was showing an example of how to capture symmetry with something NON symmetrical (something available to everyone).

My point is yes, most of these images submitted couldn't be folded in half somewhere in the photo and have a CLOSE (I'm not even saying it needs to be exact) symmetrical quality of each side. Do you want to have a contest that dictates what photos fit into it by following it's theme correctly or do you want a contest that the photos submitted dictate how loosely we follow the given theme because nobody gets it? Where does the line stop then? You can't pull the "Any interpretation of the theme that falls within Bimmerpost.com rules is welcome" card because in this case it's either symmetrical or its not, its not like "kind of symmetrical" - there is no such thing.

Just because 10 people submit photos that don't fit doesn't mean we should still allow them. Then what is the point of having any rules? If my pic is 801px by 800px should it then be included? If I don't have a title but a title is required should it be included? Where do we draw that line?

Plus what is the rush? I personally have no problem saying it was misunderstood so lets start over. Extend the contest so we are all on the same page as to what is acceptable and what isn't and all have a fair chance at submitting a photo that actually has some symmetry to it.

Whatever, that's my $.02, take it for what it's worth.

[vachss]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

Just because 10 people submit photos that don't fit doesn't mean we should still allow them. Then what is the point of having any rules? ...

The point, I would hope, is to encourage forum readers to participate and be creative.

This insistence on precise adherence to rules is really starting to make me sad. This is a small contest on a small forum and one could easily make it so restrictive that nobody participates. Is that really what you want?

My take is that, henceforward, the spirit of the photo contests should be inclusive rather than exclusive. Forum members vote on the results. If forum members don't like a picture or disagree with its interpretation of the contest's theme then they shouldn't vote for it. Period. No other corrective mechanism is needed.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by vachss

The point, I would hope, is to encourage forum readers to participate and be creative.

This insistence on precise adherence to rules is really starting to make me sad. This is a small contest on a small forum and one could easily make it so restrictive that nobody participates. Is that really what you want?

My take is that, henceforward, the spirit of the photo contests should be inclusive rather than exclusive. Forum members vote on the results. If forum members don't like a picture or disagree with its interpretation of the contest's theme then they shouldn't vote for it. Period. No other corrective mechanism is needed.

Well I agree partially but maybe you should go back and check SOME of the voting on the previous contests... the one that fits the theme the best doesn't always win. Remember people who don't frequent this section much sometimes see the poll and vote for which ever one has the prettiest colors or the coolest looking car in it.

Whatever, lets just move on. I guess nobody see's it the same way I do. I'm not trying to make it exclusive to anyone or not include anyone of any skill level. I just wish people would try to adhere to the simple rules we have in place, its not hard and if you have a question or don't know if it fits, you can always ask to resubmit a photo that does. The point of these contests is to let EVERYONE compete in them, just as much as is a chance for everyone to go out and shoot more and LEARN more and get better. I just don't see how anyone learns or gets better if we allow their photos that might not fit.

[BMW F22]

Yeah I agree with Udub that people usually vote on the picture(s) that is/are attractive to them and not necessarily the ones that fit the theme the best. But like someone else said, there's nothing we can do because it's mainly a car forum.

Anyhow, UDUB, I completely understand where you're coming from because you're thinking of symmetrical things (or asymmetrical things that could be symmetrical). The thing is that that's just one interpretation of what symmetry is. I mean in your opinion some don't fit the theme but in mine (and others) they do. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I mean yes I'm all for following the theme closely but "symmetry" unfortunately could be interpreted in many ways (reflections, balance, split down the middle thing, etc.).

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by BMW E90

Yeah I agree with Udub that people usually vote on the picture(s) that is/are attractive to them and not necessarily the ones that fit the theme the best. But like someone else said, there's nothing we can do because it's mainly a car forum.

Anyhow, UDUB, I completely understand where you're coming from because you're thinking of symmetrical things (or asymmetrical things that could be symmetrical). The thing is that that's just one interpretation of what symmetry is. I mean in your opinion some don't fit the theme but in mine (and others) they do. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I mean yes I'm all for following the theme closely but "symmetry" unfortunately could be interpreted in many ways (reflections, balance, split down the middle thing, etc.).

well not to beat a dead horse cuz I said I was done but those 3 things you listed would all be fine, yet I don't see ANY of them in some of the pics posted which was why I had a problem with them.

[runrider]

Resting

[bosstones]

Originally Posted by BMW E90

...then almost all pictures do not qualify because if you drew a line down the middle, very few pictures are symmetrical...

I'm fine with that.....

[BMW F22]

Took a new pix so I will submit it instead.

Polka Dots

[UdubBadger]

kinda liked your old one better...

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

kinda liked your old one better...

That's an old pix. I had some time so I decided to go out and shoot some stuff. I took one other one that's pretty much symmetry but I don't know if I wanna go with that instead. It's kinda funny cus one minute I didn't have much to submit and the next I've got a few.

[rodi]

there are so many different types of symmetry.

[jhv]

fuckin' udubbadger.

[oneintheory]

seth, i know you're the contest godfather and all...

but just chill on this one. it's too late. let everything slide. win one, and you can be as precisely particular as you like. until then, there's really just no reason to have a pissing match over the different artistic interpretations of a definition.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by oneintheory

seth, i know you're the contest godfather and all...

but just chill on this one. it's too late. let everything slide. win one, and you can be as precisely particular as you like. until then, there's really just no reason to have a pissing match over the different artistic interpretations of a definition.

I'm not trying to claim any special position over anyone here. I'm just a person with a strong opinion and not afraid to share it. I dropped it yesterday as of what.. like 3:15pm? Posting about it again is just fanning the flame. I said I'd let it go and I did so lets ALL let it go and just move on.

[oneintheory]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

I'm not trying to claim any special position over anyone here. I'm just a person with a strong opinion and not afraid to share it. I dropped it yesterday as of what.. like 3:15pm? Posting about it again is just fanning the flame. I said I'd let it go and I did so lets ALL let it go and just move on.

okay.

[immiketoo]

Tranquil

[cooh23]

Here's my contribution.
Cityscape


edit: opps.. I just read the rules.. haha.. contest ended last night plus I did not follow the 800px..

[Vudoo4u2]

poll!?

[oneintheory]

Originally Posted by Vudoo4u2

poll!?

life's busy right now. if someone else could throw it up, that'd be great.

[BMW F22]

I'll volunteer to put up the poll.