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      11-22-2012, 04:08 AM   #23
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I'm a bit curious to see how this sounds vs. If you had an equal length design. Please keep us updated
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I'm a bit curious to see how this sounds vs. If you had an equal length design. Please keep us updated
I will take a video today from inside and out.
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I will take a video today from inside and out.
What does the bms dp fix exactly do for us n52 owners?
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What does the bms dp fix exactly do for us n52 owners?
its acts like an O2 sim/bung. U need to code it to do that... Not sure how.
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its acts like an O2 sim/bung. U need to code it to do that... Not sure how.
Hmm.. I get what you mean now, is this meant to use only with catless headers/dp?
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Hmm.. I get what you mean now, is this meant to use only with catless headers/dp?
yea it tricks the car into thinking the cats are still there to prevent a CEL and failing emissions tests
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      11-23-2012, 07:30 AM   #29
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yea it tricks the car into thinking the cats are still there to prevent a CEL and failing emissions tests
Alright I get it now! Thanks for the claification
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Here is a brief video I could do of some city traffic driving. My mother in law makes a guest appearance.

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video is private.
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      11-23-2012, 09:12 AM   #32
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video is private.
sorry. uploaded from my phone and didn't notice. Changed it now. let me know if it works.
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Nice.

Need some nice WOT vids too :-)

Looks like there isn't much increase in cabin noise (which is a good thing).
Keep it up :-)
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      11-23-2012, 09:41 AM   #34
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long tube headers are the type that usually make a lot of noise... his are custom catless single-tube headers. Big difference but still makes the necessary horsepower without all the unwanted noise.
I prefer the loudness myself... :/
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Nice.

Need some nice WOT vids too :-)

Looks like there isn't much increase in cabin noise (which is a good thing).
Keep it up :-)
I will take another one with WOT on the way home if I can get some uncongested road.

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long tube headers are the type that usually make a lot of noise... his are custom catless single-tube headers. Big difference but still makes the necessary horsepower without all the unwanted noise.
I prefer the loudness myself... :/
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We need the WOT! Plus some outside neutral revs!
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Ok....I'm not a cinematographer but here is an idle video and another one where I punched it. It is pretty evident that these things aren't loud at all. They change the sound ever so slightly.








*edited to add neutral revs.

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Ok....I'm not a cinematographer but here is an idle video and another one where I punched it. It is pretty evident that these things aren't loud at all. They change the sound ever so slightly.








*edited to add neutral revs.
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fixed the last video.
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Looks like you found your noise level tolerance, I wonder how it would've sounded with the DA pipes. What pipes are you going to run with later?
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Looks like you found your noise level tolerance, I wonder how it would've sounded with the DA pipes. What pipes are you going to run with later?
I actually dyno'd with the stock exhaust and the Detail addict pipes did have gains in tq and hp over stock. It was negligible though. I figure deleting secondaries on the stock system would get me more gains than the DA setup. For now, I am enjoying the quiet. Once I dyno, these headers and if the power is there I will delete second cats too and if it gets too loud I will throw more resonators on. I like the single side outlet for now. If anything I would just change the oem outlets to fit my m3 rep. Swapping between bumpers is cool for now. A friend at the shop showed me how to uninstall the rear bumper in a flash so it's like switching underwear now.
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I actually dyno'd with the stock exhaust and the Detail addict pipes did have gains in tq and hp over stock. It was negligible though. I figure deleting secondaries on the stock system would get me more gains than the DA setup. For now, I am enjoying the quiet. Once I dyno, these headers and if the power is there I will delete second cats too and if it gets too loud I will throw more resonators on. I like the single side outlet for now. If anything I would just change the oem outlets to fit my m3 rep. Swapping between bumpers is cool for now. A friend at the shop showed me how to uninstall the rear bumper in a flash so it's like switching underwear now.
Haha awesome, hopefully doing some dyno runs too against my eisenmann and detail addict set up. Should've gone with the m-tech rear and remove the diffuser. That's what I'll end up doing while trying to figure out which exhaust end I want.
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Just finished installing my headers. Took me about 5 hours. Got to head to the exhaust shop tomorrow and get them connected to the mid pipes. Right now they are wide open and loud as hell haha!
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Just finished installing my headers. Took me about 5 hours. Got to head to the exhaust shop tomorrow and get them connected to the mid pipes. Right now they are wide open and loud as hell haha!
I thought you had adjustable flanges? Can't you bolt right up?
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