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      10-05-2013, 03:06 AM   #45
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So i finally got a chance to dyno since last week ive had the rb turbos on my car
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Was the redline oil an advantage when running the Alpina b3 TCM flash?

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Was the redline oil an advantage when running the Alpina b3 TCM flash?

I kept original BMW oil
From the research i've done, i believe redline is a better oil. Oil and the flash have nothing to do with one another
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So, how about those really slow trap speeds you posted today?
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So, how about those really slow trap speeds you posted today?
They said the track was shorter and the timing equipment different than last time so everyone's traps were slower compared to the last event.

I read he ran 152mph @ 18psi and wasn't able to finish higher boost runs due to a misfire code coming up. Another 335i running RB turbos that makes 530rw on the same dyno busta used, that is 300# lighter, ran a best of 155mph.

A custom single turbo with 600rw on a load dyno using six extra injectors and a motec tuning system apparently ran an impressive 159mph. A full weight FBO E85 JB4 335i ran 146mph and BMS did 150mph with their lighter weight 135.

I heard you didn't go? Any other e90post members go?

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They said the track was shorter and the timing equipment different than last time so everyone's traps were slower compared to the last event.

I read he ran 152mph @ 18psi and wasn't able to finish higher boost runs due to a misfire code coming up. Another 335i running RB turbos that makes 530rw on the same dyno busta used, that is 300# lighter, ran a best of 155mph.

A custom single turbo with 600rw on a load dyno using six extra injectors and a motec tuning system apparently ran an impressive 159mph. A full weight FBO E85 JB4 335i ran 146mph and BMS did 150mph with their lighter weight 135.

I heard you didn't go? Any other e90post members go?

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I took my Corvette. I didn't make the Spring event, so I don't have any direct comparisons for my car -- but I can tell you it was brutally hot yesterday. Probably 90 degrees after noon. My IATs were in the ~130 range just sitting in the staging lanes waiting to run. From the starting cones, it was only about 0.4 miles, too. A lot of guys were running from a dig all the way at the end of the runway to try to get better trap speeds. The heat probably had more to do with the lower trap speeds than anything else.

I think I did 164-165, but all my runs were from the cones. I'll get my videos up soon.
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I was there, my best was between 144-145mph with straight e85 and no meth. But that was from a roll at the cones so .42 instead of .50. I had my girlfriend in my car all day and just raced anyone that came up to me, but we had a great time! I'll see if I can get my videos together.

The event really showed me how much I need NLS and a fmic
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So, how about those really slow trap speeds you posted today?
They said the track was shorter and the timing equipment different than last time so everyone's traps were slower compared to the last event.

I read he ran 152mph @ 18psi and wasn't able to finish higher boost runs due to a misfire code coming up. Another 335i running RB turbos that makes 530rw on the same dyno busta used, that is 300# lighter, ran a best of 155mph.

A custom single turbo with 600rw on a load dyno using six extra injectors and a motec tuning system apparently ran an impressive 159mph. A full weight FBO E85 JB4 335i ran 146mph and BMS did 150mph with their lighter weight 135.

I heard you didn't go? Any other e90post members go?

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I have a video of my girlfriend and I going up against the motec custom single from Kaizen Motorsports, that thing is moving!! I'll throw online in a little when I get a chance.
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Nice meeting you busta and thanks for the run. Your car is awesome an I can't wait to get a 335is DCT and slap the RB's on it.

With my ESS 650 kit the best trap I did was 152.5 going from the cones starting at around 45 mph. I never went from a dig at the back.

This compares to 155/156 I did last time. The timing equipment was different, shorter distance and it was hot! So all those things contributed to slower speeds this time around.

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They said the track was shorter and the timing equipment different than last time so everyone's traps were slower compared to the last event.

I read he ran 152mph @ 18psi and wasn't able to finish higher boost runs due to a misfire code coming up. Another 335i running RB turbos that makes 530rw on the same dyno busta used, that is 300# lighter, ran a best of 155mph.

A custom single turbo with 600rw on a load dyno using six extra injectors and a motec tuning system apparently ran an impressive 159mph. A full weight FBO E85 JB4 335i ran 146mph and BMS did 150mph with their lighter weight 135.

I heard you didn't go? Any other e90post members go?

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@Dmacc was there. Unless they made it a .4 mile it's always been a 4.5 mile track after the first event where one of the 1000 hp turbo e46 failed to stop.

RB's were also trapping in the mid 150's in April. The fact that e85 stock turbo's cars now with the aggressive back end flash are making an extra 20 whp than what I made in April would easily put them in the low 150's considering my traps were just over 147... So hitting 150 traps is awesome for stock turbo cars!!! Trust me, I wish I could have been there.

I'm looking at the dyno and log posted, something just doesn't add up here... Where is the 500+ wtq coming from considering he's showing a sub 10 degs of timing until 5500 rpm? He's only hitting 12 deg up top at red line which isn't all that aggressive. To me, this is not what you would call a perfect log by no means considering he's not pushing more than 20 psi and dropping off to 17 psi at red line.

I tuned a car with an e85 aggressive back-end flash last week and this is the log from that car. Hopefully the owner can get to a dynojet soon as I would love to see the numbers this car is putting down.

E85 Aggressive Flash

Mike, don't take this the wrong way. It has nothing to do with the tune or hardware, but more to do with the person who posted the information. If you're going to talk smack about running 150's at SS with stock turbo's without actual trap slip and the whp to back it up, then post crap logs and questionable dynos... be prepared to have someone call it BS... There are a few other questionable things this person did in the past week to a vendor that I won't talk about here, but lets just say it was very unethical.

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@Dmacc was there. Unless they made it a .4 mile it's always been a 4.5 mile track after the first event where one of the 1000 hp turbo e46 failed to stop.

RB's were also trapping in the mid 150's in April. The fact that e85 stock turbo's cars now with the aggressive back end flash are making an extra 20 whp than what I made in April would easily put them in the low 150's considering my traps were just over 147... So hitting 150 traps is awesome for stock turbo cars!!! Trust me, I wish I could have been there.

I'm looking at the dyno and log posted, something just doesn't add up here... Where is the 500+ wtq coming from considering he's showing a sub 10 degs of timing until 5500 rpm? He's only hitting 12 deg up top at red line which isn't all that aggressive. To me, this is not what you would call a perfect log by no means considering he's not pushing more than 20 psi and dropping off to 17 psi at red line.

I tuned a car with an e85 aggressive back-end flash last week and this is the log from that car. Hopefully the owner can get to a dynojet soon as I would love to see the numbers this car is putting down.

E85 Aggressive Flash

Mike, don't take this the wrong way. It has nothing to do with the tune or hardware, but more to do with the person who posted the information. If you're going to talk smack about running 150's at SS with stock turbo's without actual trap slip and the whp to back it up, then post crap logs and questionable dynos... be prepared to have someone call it BS... There are a few other questionable things this person did in the past week to a vendor that I won't talk about here, but lets just say it was very ethical.
I'm not aware of the back end stuff that goes on between you guys. I can only comment on the racing results. If there are personal issues take it up with him via PM IMHO.

It sounds like everyone was down 3-4 mph from last time due to the shorter track and new timing equipment so whatever you or anyone else ran last time is irrelevant. You'd have to compare to what everyone ran this time.

DMCC how much power do you make with your 135i? 440hp? If you went 145mph, and a 600hp+ supercharged DCT M3 did 152mph, then Busta running 152mph on map 7 (18.5psi tapering to 16psi) sounds faster than it should be to me not slower than it should be. SRanch335 ran 155mph at 20psi (530hp) but his car is completely gutted and weighs just 3150#.

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@Dmacc was there. Unless they made it a .4 mile it's always been a 4.5 mile track after the first event where one of the 1000 hp turbo e46 failed to stop.

RB's were also trapping in the mid 150's in April. The fact that e85 stock turbo's cars now with the aggressive back end flash are making an extra 20 whp than what I made in April would easily put them in the low 150's considering my traps were just over 147... So hitting 150 traps is awesome for stock turbo cars!!! Trust me, I wish I could have been there.

I'm looking at the dyno and log posted, something just doesn't add up here... Where is the 500+ wtq coming from considering he's showing a sub 10 degs of timing until 5500 rpm? He's only hitting 12 deg up top at red line which isn't all that aggressive. To me, this is not what you would call a perfect log by no means considering he's not pushing more than 20 psi and dropping off to 17 psi at red line.

I tuned a car with an e85 aggressive back-end flash last week and this is the log from that car. Hopefully the owner can get to a dynojet soon as I would love to see the numbers this car is putting down.

E85 Aggressive Flash

Mike, don't take this the wrong way. It has nothing to do with the tune or hardware, but more to do with the person who posted the information. If you're going to talk smack about running 150's at SS with stock turbo's without actual trap slip and the whp to back it up, then post crap logs and questionable dynos... be prepared to have someone call it BS... There are a few other questionable things this person did in the past week to a vendor that I won't talk about here, but lets just say it was very ethical.
I'm not aware of the back end stuff that goes on between you guys. I can only comment on the racing results. If there are personal issues take it up with him via PM IMHO.

It sounds like everyone was down 3-4 mph from last time due to the shorter track and new timing equipment so whatever you or anyone else ran last time is irrelevant. You'd have to compare to what everyone ran this time.

DMCC how much power do you make with your 135i? 440hp? If you went 145mph, and a 600hp+ supercharged DCT M3 did 152mph, then Busta running 152mph on map 7 (18.5psi tapering to 16psi) sounds faster than it should be to me not slower than it should be. SRanch335 ran 155mph at 20psi (530hp) but his car is completely gutted and weighs just 3150#.

Mike
I was running the new flex map that JoeC500 dynoed 469whp 530wtq with. My IAT's were god awful high, as high as 170 I believe. I was also dropping a fair amount of boost between shifts as I don't have the rev 3, just the 2.5se. I think the temps there yesterday got up as high as 92F.

So an upgraded FMIC and NLS are next on my list.
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Wedge is that log you posted from a 6MT or 6AT car? That timing looks great.
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Wedge is that log you posted from a 6MT or 6AT car? That timing looks great.
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On my go pro memory card, at my house, I'll work on putting a video together a little later today when I get some free time.
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So, how about those really slow trap speeds you posted today?

lol 152

with codes missfires
mest up fuel pump an 18psi


and their speeds traps were diffrnt their saying around 4mph less then last event puts me at 156 in april
this is wat everyone saying
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Oh here's the SS thread.
I hit 168 on my best run. I was hoping to go over 170 but yes it was hot, I have a CAI in the fender and it was reading over 100*. My Talon didn't like the heat, I had to turn the boost down to 33-35psi to keep the logs happy. There was also a slight headwind in the afternoon which made the braking zone a little safer. Overall it was a great day, plenty of amazing cars and fun times!
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lol 152

with codes missfires
mest up fuel pump an 18psi


and their speeds traps were diffrnt their saying around 4mph less then last event puts me at 156 in april
this is wat everyone saying
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Oh well. Herd you didn't even bring a laptop. Next time... Sounds like my Sunday last April. I had a plug socket, but no plugs. Live and learn.

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Was the redline oil an advantage when running the Alpina b3 TCM flash?

I kept original BMW oil
From the research i've done, i believe redline is a better oil. Oil and the flash have nothing to do with one another
Ok thanks. I thought as much

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