*Official* 6FL iPod/USB Thread

gerrydirish · 04-19-2009, 05:49 PM

Hey all,

I have a 2008 328i with the 6fl option.

I initially used a 4 gb Sandisk cruzer which worked fine. Just copied music to it and plugged it in.

I just bought a PNY 16 gb and synched it using the Windows media player option. Took a bit but not sure how long as I was watching bball.

But plugged into the 6fl option, took about 90 seconds to load the directory and I was good to go.

So these can be added:

SanDisk Cruzer 2gb
PNY 16GB

Hope this helps......

hblatt1 · 06-05-2009, 02:03 PM

I also have the USB connection in my BMW. You guys have said that with a regular Ipod if you connect through the USB port, you must also connect through the AUX input to get sound, the USB only provides the text information. However, if you use an Ipod Shuffle, the sound will play directly through the USB w/out the AUX connected. Is this because a different type of memory (flash) is used in the Ipod Shuffle? If so, does this mean that any other MP3 player with flash memory (specifically the Cowon O2 is what I'm interested in) would connect and play directly through the USB w/out the AUX connection?

I ask b/c if you connect through AUX, you lose sound quality b/c of D/A conversion.

Also, if anyone is familiar with the BBE technology used in Cowon players to enhance the quality of MP3 music, do you know if the player is connected through a USB port, rather than through use of the headphones, will that circumvent the BBE enhancements? Is BBE only operative and effective when music is played through the headphones (and I presume has passed through a D/A converter)?

Thanks for any help, I appreciate it.

networkguy · 06-06-2009, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hblatt1

I also have the USB connection in my BMW. You guys have said that with a regular Ipod if you connect through the USB port, you must also connect through the AUX input to get sound, the USB only provides the text information. However, if you use an Ipod Shuffle, the sound will play directly through the USB w/out the AUX connected. Is this because a different type of memory (flash) is used in the Ipod Shuffle? If so, does this mean that any other MP3 player with flash memory (specifically the Cowon O2 is what I'm interested in) would connect and play directly through the USB w/out the AUX connection?

If the player is seen as a mass storage device then yes (in theory) it will work the same but see my next comment.

Quote:

I ask b/c if you connect through AUX, you lose sound quality b/c of D/A conversion.

Also, if anyone is familiar with the BBE technology used in Cowon players to enhance the quality of MP3 music, do you know if the player is connected through a USB port, rather than through use of the headphones, will that circumvent the BBE enhancements? Is BBE only operative and effective when music is played through the headphones (and I presume has passed through a D/A converter)?

Thanks for any help, I appreciate it.

If you are connecting the device as a mass storage device then NONE of the players audio components (including the DA conversion) are used. The MP3 (or WMA) files are begin read and then converted by the car not the player.

So whilst you are not loosing sound quality by using the AUX port, there will be the question "are the car electronics as good as the ones used by Cowon".

So you asked if the BBE is active through the USB port when connected to the car in this way. The answer I am afraid is no.

taratorko · 06-12-2009, 05:59 AM

Hi guys,

I recently got a gorgeous 07 335i convertible (which I named Cleopatra

) with a usb connection. When I hook up my 3g Iphone, however, I cannot use the car controls to change the songs (I can only use the phone's touch screen). Obviously, the sound goes out on the AUX port.

Is there some kind of update to make it work with the Iphone?

If not, can I simply use an USB stick instead of getting another Ipod?

Thanks.

HighVoltage · 06-12-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

Hi guys,

I recently got a gorgeous 07 335i convertible (which I named Cleopatra

) with a usb connection. When I hook up my 3g Iphone, however, I cannot use the car controls to change the songs (I can only use the phone's touch screen). Obviously, the sound goes out on the AUX port.

Is there some kind of update to make it work with the Iphone?

If not, can I simply use an USB stick instead of getting another Ipod?

Thanks.

You are using this cable?

JSpira · 06-12-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

Hi guys,

I recently got a gorgeous 07 335i convertible (which I named Cleopatra

) with a usb connection. When I hook up my 3g Iphone, however, I cannot use the car controls to change the songs (I can only use the phone's touch screen). Obviously, the sound goes out on the AUX port.

Is there some kind of update to make it work with the Iphone?

If not, can I simply use an USB stick instead of getting another Ipod?

Thanks.

I have two new iPod cables. If you need one, please send me a PM.

Gibson6594 · 06-12-2009, 02:27 PM

why doesn't my 07 E92 335i have a USB connection?

HighVoltage · 06-12-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibson6594

why doesn't my 07 E92 335i have a USB connection?

Ok, I'll ask the obvious...because you didnt order 6FL?

Gibson6594 · 06-12-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighVoltage

Ok, I'll ask the obvious...because you didnt order 6FL?

well, I also didn't build the car. CPO

So that would explain it.

taratorko · 06-13-2009, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighVoltage

You are using this cable?

Well,

I was using the original white Apple data cable. Had no clue I needed a special one

Thanks.

rfdgn1228 · 06-19-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighVoltage

You are using this cable?

Is this the cable that BMW charges you $400 for as an "optional" iPod USB Adaptor?

I just ordered a 2009 e92 m3 but opted not to get the iPod USB Adaptor option. This is my first BMW so I'm not aware, but do all 09 e92's come with the aux-in and usb-in even if you don't get the iPod option? Just wanted to know because it seems like the option just gives you the cable to plug into the aux-in and usb-in. If so, that means I can just buy the cable later right?

HighVoltage · 06-19-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfdgn1228

Is this the cable that BMW charges you $400 for as an "optional" iPod USB Adaptor?

I just ordered a 2009 e92 m3 but opted not to get the iPod USB Adaptor option. This is my first BMW so I'm not aware, but do all 09 e92's come with the aux-in and usb-in even if you don't get the iPod option? Just wanted to know because it seems like the option just gives you the cable to plug into the aux-in and usb-in. If so, that means I can just buy the cable later right?

Its the cable that comes with the $400 option. The (replacement) cable costs ~$50.00 at the dealer. The cable alone is not the option...

rfdgn1228 · 06-19-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighVoltage

Its the cable that comes with the $400 option. The (replacement) cable costs ~$50.00 at the dealer. The cable alone is not the option...

oh ok. so i only get an aux-in not the usb-in without this option from the factory right?

deuceap610 · 07-20-2009, 11:56 PM

Ok I won't lie, I'm a bit confused. I plugged in my iPod touch 1st generation (3.0 firmware) into the 6FL and ipod showed up as an option on my cd player. Now it doesn't show up anymore despite unplugging and resetting the ipod. Thoughts?

hifidawg09 · 08-14-2009, 07:40 PM

I am using the ycable with a Nano 4th gen ipod 6FL option.
Everything works great.I can control the player and use playlists etc and the battery charges. My only problem is that if I leave it plugged in with the car OFF the battery gets drained in a few hours. I have no idea why this is happening. I understand that the power to the y cable will cut out 20-30 min after the key is out and the car is locked. I have no idea why the darn thing will not go into standby mode after the power is cut. Something is preventing it from going to sleep. Is anyone else having this issue? Maybe its only on the 4th gen Nano. I have firmware 1.04 btw and the BMW has all the latest programming as well. Sucks to have to disconnect the Nano every time or else the battery is going to crap out very soon!

BMOEW · 08-15-2009, 09:34 AM

I have an 07 e92, it has the aux in but not the usb, can I get that from the dealer installed?

snappca · 08-21-2009, 11:19 AM

I just purchased a 2008 135i convertible and it came with the ipod dongle (61.12.0.440.796) and a guy at the dealer showed me it working with his 1st gen iPod Touch. But when I connect my 2nd gen iPod Touch it doesn't work. If I disconnect the USB it will still play music, but obviously I'd like to have the dashboard controls. I called another dealer and they looked up by VIN number and said I needed part # 61.12.0.440.812 but I wasn't confident that she understood the problem and she said it'd be $74 with no chance of refund. Anyone know if this part number will definitely work with the 2nd gen iTouch?

Thanks

Weaselboy · 08-21-2009, 05:35 PM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oss_T7_product

I mentioned earlier Griffin had come out with a new adaptor that might fix the charging problem with 3G/3GS iPhones. I just received the product from Amazon and it does not charge my iPhone 3GS.

The Cable Jive adaptor I have still works and charges, but is poorly made and often falls out of the iPhone at the least little nudge.

jpsimon · 08-22-2009, 12:29 PM

I'll get the part number for my 6FL cord... but like i said earlier my 3GS charges fine. Am I the only one that this actually works for?

08 335xi, sports package, premium/idrive, cold weather, 6FL

kisho · 08-24-2009, 10:56 AM

Has anyone tried this? Looks like a 6fl Retrofit.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...9&d=1214843440

HazChem · 08-24-2009, 12:04 PM

Charging, iPod integration and bluetooth connectivity works just fine with my 3GS using the stock 6FL cable.

RonRed89 · 08-24-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snappca

I just purchased a 2008 135i convertible and it came with the ipod dongle (61.12.0.440.796) and a guy at the dealer showed me it working with his 1st gen iPod Touch. But when I connect my 2nd gen iPod Touch it doesn't work. If I disconnect the USB it will still play music, but obviously I'd like to have the dashboard controls. I called another dealer and they looked up by VIN number and said I needed part # 61.12.0.440.812 but I wasn't confident that she understood the problem and she said it'd be $74 with no chance of refund. Anyone know if this part number will definitely work with the 2nd gen iTouch? Thanks

What's the difference between the stock cable and this one? I also have a non-working 2nd Gen touch.

Ron

04-19-2009, 05:49 PM	#1145
gerrydirish Enlisted Member 1 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2008 328i Jet Black/Black Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South FL iTrader: (0)	Working thumb drives Hey all, I have a 2008 328i with the 6fl option. I initially used a 4 gb Sandisk cruzer which worked fine. Just copied music to it and plugged it in. I just bought a PNY 16 gb and synched it using the Windows media player option. Took a bit but not sure how long as I was watching bball. But plugged into the 6fl option, took about 90 seconds to load the directory and I was good to go. So these can be added: SanDisk Cruzer 2gb PNY 16GB Hope this helps......
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hblatt1 Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: '08 328i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Baltimore iTrader: (0)	MP3 Question I also have the USB connection in my BMW. You guys have said that with a regular Ipod if you connect through the USB port, you must also connect through the AUX input to get sound, the USB only provides the text information. However, if you use an Ipod Shuffle, the sound will play directly through the USB w/out the AUX connected. Is this because a different type of memory (flash) is used in the Ipod Shuffle? If so, does this mean that any other MP3 player with flash memory (specifically the Cowon O2 is what I'm interested in) would connect and play directly through the USB w/out the AUX connection? I ask b/c if you connect through AUX, you lose sound quality b/c of D/A conversion. Also, if anyone is familiar with the BBE technology used in Cowon players to enhance the quality of MP3 music, do you know if the player is connected through a USB port, rather than through use of the headphones, will that circumvent the BBE enhancements? Is BBE only operative and effective when music is played through the headphones (and I presume has passed through a D/A converter)? Thanks for any help, I appreciate it.
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taratorko Private 11 Rep 68 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Hi guys, I recently got a gorgeous 07 335i convertible (which I named Cleopatra ) with a usb connection. When I hook up my 3g Iphone, however, I cannot use the car controls to change the songs (I can only use the phone's touch screen). Obviously, the sound goes out on the AUX port. Is there some kind of update to make it work with the Iphone? If not, can I simply use an USB stick instead of getting another Ipod? Thanks.
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deuceap610 Private 2 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 328i xDrive Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North NJ iTrader: (0)	Ok I won't lie, I'm a bit confused. I plugged in my iPod touch 1st generation (3.0 firmware) into the 6FL and ipod showed up as an option on my cd player. Now it doesn't show up anymore despite unplugging and resetting the ipod. Thoughts? __________________ '09 E90 328i xDrive \| Space Gray \| Chestnut Brown \| Dark Burl Walnut \| 6MT \| ZSP \| ZCW \| Xenons \| CA \| iPod
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08-14-2009, 07:40 PM	#1159
hifidawg09 First Lieutenant 26 Rep 377 Posts Drives: 2010 335 xdrive Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boston iTrader: (4) Garage List Born 2005 - BMW 330 ... [0.00] Born July 2007 - De ... [0.00]	Battery Drains on Ipod Nano I am using the ycable with a Nano 4th gen ipod 6FL option. Everything works great.I can control the player and use playlists etc and the battery charges. My only problem is that if I leave it plugged in with the car OFF the battery gets drained in a few hours. I have no idea why this is happening. I understand that the power to the y cable will cut out 20-30 min after the key is out and the car is locked. I have no idea why the darn thing will not go into standby mode after the power is cut. Something is preventing it from going to sleep. Is anyone else having this issue? Maybe its only on the 4th gen Nano. I have firmware 1.04 btw and the BMW has all the latest programming as well. Sucks to have to disconnect the Nano every time or else the battery is going to crap out very soon!
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BMOEW Lieutenant Colonel 121 Rep 1,665 Posts Drives: 2011 335is AW Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: dallas, tx: Lebanon iTrader: (6)	I have an 07 e92, it has the aux in but not the usb, can I get that from the dealer installed?
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08-21-2009, 11:19 AM	#1161
snappca Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: Graphite '08 135i Convertible Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	iPod Touch 2nd Generation I just purchased a 2008 135i convertible and it came with the ipod dongle (61.12.0.440.796) and a guy at the dealer showed me it working with his 1st gen iPod Touch. But when I connect my 2nd gen iPod Touch it doesn't work. If I disconnect the USB it will still play music, but obviously I'd like to have the dashboard controls. I called another dealer and they looked up by VIN number and said I needed part # 61.12.0.440.812 but I wasn't confident that she understood the problem and she said it'd be $74 with no chance of refund. Anyone know if this part number will definitely work with the 2nd gen iTouch? Thanks
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Weaselboy Major 76 Rep 1,292 Posts Drives: 2024 M340i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California iTrader: (0)	http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oss_T7_product I mentioned earlier Griffin had come out with a new adaptor that might fix the charging problem with 3G/3GS iPhones. I just received the product from Amazon and it does not charge my iPhone 3GS. The Cable Jive adaptor I have still works and charges, but is poorly made and often falls out of the iPhone at the least little nudge.
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3065 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	I'll get the part number for my 6FL cord... but like i said earlier my 3GS charges fine. Am I the only one that this actually works for? 08 335xi, sports package, premium/idrive, cold weather, 6FL
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