2013 335iS Concern

nsquared · 06-26-2012, 10:07 PM

On bmwusa.com when reading/building a new 2013 335iS the car's engine advisement/highlights seemed to have changed to the N55 motor instead of the N54 motor.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ce.aspx?Id=429

Can anyone confirm that the 2013 335iS doesn't have the N54 motor anymore or is this just a typo or some type of marketing tool?

edit: It now states TwinPower Technology instead of Twin Turbo technology as it did for the 2012 model. It also says it was value variable timing and I was under the impression that the N54 did not have that.

pepper1 · 06-27-2012, 01:29 PM

You will find this helpful.. I did.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691785

nsquared · 06-27-2012, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper1

You will find this helpful.. I did.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691785

Ah, clearly states N54 motor. Thank you!

N55 · 06-27-2012, 11:43 PM

Just traded in my 2011 E90 N55 yesterday for a 2012 E92 335is. I can confirm N54

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nsquared · 06-27-2012, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N55

Just traded in my 2011 E90 N55 yesterday for a 2012 E92 335is. I can confirm N54

.

But you're name is N55, how tragic.

50shadesofhockenheim · 06-28-2012, 12:12 AM

isn't the N55 the newer motor? Why would you want the N54?

tshoww · 06-28-2012, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW328_

isn't the N55 the newer motor? Why would you want the N54?

n54 is twin turbo n55 is single turbo

N55 · 06-28-2012, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsquared

But you're name is N55, how tragic.

LOL I know tell me about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW328_

isn't the N55 the newer motor? Why would you want the N54?

Yes, N55 is the newer motor. I went from a 08' N54 to a 11' N55 and now to a 12' N54. I had my N55 almost FBO and I wasn't happy with the tuning capabilities of it.

Some Main Reasons: (Not trying to open up a huge debate)
- N55 = Cast Internals N54 = Forged
- Stock N55 Turbo is too small to squeeze much more HP out of it.
- For the money I put into the N55 I could have had a 380-400 hp N54.
- No DP Fix Mod available for the N55 yet.(Correct me if i'm wrong)

N55 · 06-28-2012, 01:30 AM

I think there are a couple other members that pulled the plug on the N55 as well.

nsquared · 06-28-2012, 02:07 PM

The N55 is also more efficient from what I understand.

nsquared · 07-30-2012, 01:54 AM

Not to revive this thread but does anyone know if the overboost function is only in the DCT equipped cars?

N55 · 07-30-2012, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsquared

Not to revive this thread but does anyone know if the overboost function is only in the DCT equipped cars?

Check This Post 8

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529446

nsquared · 07-30-2012, 04:00 AM

^
Thanks!

bbarker · 07-30-2012, 12:10 PM

I have a 2012 335is 6MT. I can tell you that I have a really hard time noticing the overboost. I don't know if it's either A) not coming on or B) too smooth to notice.

When I test drove the DCT, it was very clear when the overboost kicked in. Just FYI in case you ordered the 6MT! I may have the car dyno'd soon to see if something is truly wrong or if I'm just horrible at noticing the extra bump in torque. It's definitely a fast/fun car to drive! You'll enjoy it.

Sp82 · 07-30-2012, 12:22 PM

hmm....is the auto better than 6MT then?

bbarker · 07-30-2012, 12:36 PM

Not sure I would go so far to say that one is "better" than the other.

I'd personally sacrifice a little speed/quickness in order to feel more "connected" via 6MT vice DCT. If you prefer auto and/or want to go a little faster in a straight line.. then DCT is the way to go.

With the DCT I could feel the overboost come on because I'd get pushed back in the seat a little bit. I've been told that this might be due to the fact that the DCT could be downshifting at the same time but I'm not sure. Either way, it's just more noticeable with the DCT.

Doctor///M · 07-30-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW328_

isn't the N55 the newer motor? Why would you want the N54?

...because of this (among other things).

nsquared · 07-30-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbbeemer

I have a 2012 335is 6MT. I can tell you that I have a really hard time noticing the overboost. I don't know if it's either A) not coming on or B) too smooth to notice.

When I test drove the DCT, it was very clear when the overboost kicked in. Just FYI in case you ordered the 6MT! I may have the car dyno'd soon to see if something is truly wrong or if I'm just horrible at noticing the extra bump in torque. It's definitely a fast/fun car to drive! You'll enjoy it.

Most likely I will do the 6MT. I keep reading that the overboost is only activate during launch and w/ the DCT. Could be wrong lol. I hope I am.

bbarker · 07-31-2012, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsquared

Most likely I will do the 6MT. I keep reading that the overboost is only activate during launch and w/ the DCT. Could be wrong lol. I hope I am.

Regardless of whether the overboost function is there or not for the 6MT (almost certain that it is), it's still a pretty fast vehicle. It doesn't feel "fast" to me because I came from a 300whp/370wtq AWD Subaru but the BMW has a LOT of potential for high hp/tq with a couple mods (tuning!). You won't regret purchasing the 335is.

nsquared · 08-01-2012, 03:15 PM

^
Thanks. Yeah I probably won't regret it. Just want to make the right choice. Still up in air. Waiting till August 6th to finally make my decision.

tres · 08-01-2012, 04:13 PM

The IS is a very good car I would only be concerned about the hpfp. There have been failures in the 1M and the IS including mine

nsquared · 08-01-2012, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tres

The IS is a very good car I would only be concerned about the hpfp. There have been failures in the 1M and the IS including mine

Thanks for the heads up. Seeing that you are a 6MT owner, do you have the overboost function? Is it noticeable?

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nsquared [Versatile] 376 Rep 1,683 Posts Drives: (S)LOW. Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California & Utah iTrader: (2)	2013 335iS Concern On bmwusa.com when reading/building a new 2013 335iS the car's engine advisement/highlights seemed to have changed to the N55 motor instead of the N54 motor. http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ce.aspx?Id=429 Can anyone confirm that the 2013 335iS doesn't have the N54 motor anymore or is this just a typo or some type of marketing tool? edit: It now states TwinPower Technology instead of Twin Turbo technology as it did for the 2012 model. It also says it was value variable timing and I was under the impression that the N54 did not have that. __________________ '02 TS E46 330xi - SOLD '06 SGM E90 325i - SOLD '13 AW F30 335i ///M-Sport 6MT. OEM(+) - SOLD '20 AW F87 X3MC - Sold Current: `23 Chalk G80 M3CX \| Ordered: '24 M3CS - Week37 build.
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pepper1 Private 13 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2013 335 IS Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: East iTrader: (0)	You will find this helpful.. I did. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691785
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50shadesofhockenheim Colonel 2150 Rep 2,316 Posts Drives: 2005 Toyota Prius Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: boca raton, fl iTrader: (6)	isn't the N55 the newer motor? Why would you want the N54?
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nsquared [Versatile] 376 Rep 1,683 Posts Drives: (S)LOW. Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California & Utah iTrader: (2)	Not to revive this thread but does anyone know if the overboost function is only in the DCT equipped cars? __________________ '02 TS E46 330xi - SOLD '06 SGM E90 325i - SOLD '13 AW F30 335i ///M-Sport 6MT. OEM(+) - SOLD '20 AW F87 X3MC - Sold Current: `23 Chalk G80 M3CX \| Ordered: '24 M3CS - Week37 build.
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bbarker Enlisted Member 4 Rep 45 Posts Drives: 2012 335is Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	I have a 2012 335is 6MT. I can tell you that I have a really hard time noticing the overboost. I don't know if it's either A) not coming on or B) too smooth to notice. When I test drove the DCT, it was very clear when the overboost kicked in. Just FYI in case you ordered the 6MT! I may have the car dyno'd soon to see if something is truly wrong or if I'm just horrible at noticing the extra bump in torque. It's definitely a fast/fun car to drive! You'll enjoy it.
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bbarker Enlisted Member 4 Rep 45 Posts Drives: 2012 335is Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Not sure I would go so far to say that one is "better" than the other. I'd personally sacrifice a little speed/quickness in order to feel more "connected" via 6MT vice DCT. If you prefer auto and/or want to go a little faster in a straight line.. then DCT is the way to go. With the DCT I could feel the overboost come on because I'd get pushed back in the seat a little bit. I've been told that this might be due to the fact that the DCT could be downshifting at the same time but I'm not sure. Either way, it's just more noticeable with the DCT.
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tres Major 34 Rep 1,381 Posts Drives: 2011 bmw 335is 6MT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: maryland iTrader: (6)	The IS is a very good car I would only be concerned about the hpfp. There have been failures in the 1M and the IS including mine
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