Quickest and Fastest 6MT n54's

bmwzimmer · 10-20-2009, 02:43 PM

Like the title says. Who has the current record? I know all the 6AT's have all the dragtime.com records but how about manual's??? Do 6mt guys just don't go out to the strip as often as 6at guys?
I'm strongly considering an 2010 e92 6mt but if a 6at with the same mods are considerably faster, I don't know if I should.
I'll probably take it to the strip a few times so I do want an advantage if there is one

enrita · 10-20-2009, 02:50 PM

its all about how good you are with the stick

SteveMD · 10-20-2009, 02:51 PM

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335i-Drag-Racing.html

Sniz · 10-20-2009, 02:55 PM

I believe Shiv holds at least the fastest record.....not sure though.

if you like to drive a manual, then get it. Who cares if you can launch a little better at the drag strip. Drag racing is likely .001% of your cars total use.

I enjoy rowing the gears myself tremendously......even if i'm just cruising to Quizno's or something mundane. My pickup truck is an auto....my car isn't and won't be.

hubble bubble · 10-20-2009, 02:56 PM

MT is faster, but auto is easier to go fast. MT is more fun too.

BMW's official website gives a MT 0.2 seconds faster to 60. And you can shave another 0.6 off the "official" time if you are willing to just drop the clutch at 4000rpm. (I'm not)

OpenFlash · 10-20-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

Like the title says. Who has the current record? I know all the 6AT's have all the dragtime.com records but how about manual's??? Do 6mt guys just don't go out to the strip as often as 6at guys?
I'm strongly considering an 2010 e92 6mt but if a 6at with the same mods are considerably faster, I don't know if I should.
I'll probably take it to the strip a few times so I do want an advantage if there is one

Not that it really matters for normal driving, but the 6MT is harder to launch than the 6AT. That's about it. If you shift well, you will keep up with a 6AT. But if drag racing/ETs is your thing, you'll be best served with a 6AT. Not as much fun though, IMHO.

Shiv

McMuffin · 10-20-2009, 03:01 PM

Oh o

then

followed by

. < We all know who that is.

Get a 6MT and install a 3.46 final drive.

ianthegreat · 10-20-2009, 05:57 PM

I feel like my girlfriend would drive an automatic. Just sayin'

Terrance28 · 10-20-2009, 06:08 PM

And if she would she would be faster than you haha jk.

deletedelete · 10-20-2009, 06:12 PM

Im pretty sure this has been argued many times, but the understanding is that the auto is faster. But if you enjoy driving a manual, then you shouldnt care about a few tenths of a second at the track. If your that concerned about the track times, get a track car.

I think that Shiv has the fastest mt. Or the highest trap. I can't remember. Either way he has a fast mt.

lamia2super · 10-20-2009, 06:28 PM

AT is for ****!!! lol

I have a MT and its hard not to go fast because of how much fun it is going threw the gears.

ianthegreat · 10-20-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrance28

And if she would she would be faster than you haha jk.

SchwarzOpsAZ · 10-20-2009, 10:14 PM

+1000 Re: how much more fun to drive manuals are.

I'm not sure why people are putting so much credit into how fast a BMW can go in a straight line. It's a drivers car, drag cars are tubbed and are really just engines on wheels. BMWs are built to enjoy driving (3'ers anyway), and a 6MT just makes it even more enjoyable (IMO). So go for the MT

BavarianBullet · 10-21-2009, 08:16 AM

I'm surprised no one pointed out the fact that we haven't really seen anyone (other than shiv?) go to the track with the new bogfix maps yet which will make the 6MTs a little better ET and mph. Previously the non-stock 6MTs were slowed some unquantified amount by the computer closing the throttle after shifts.

Now that this has been addressed by the major tuners (Procede, Juicebox and I think CPE; flashes???), it will be interesting to see how the 6MTs fare vs the 6ATs.

Stock vs stock I don't think there's an appreciable difference assuming the 6MTs take out the ridiculous CDV and have a decent driver not granny-shifting.

BobVader in his modded 6MT 335xi ran 11.9x on race gas (pre-bogfix) and the fastest modded 6AT 335xi ran about the same. I think those are quickest 335XIs at the moment: http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335xi-Drag-Racing.html. The 335XIs are a good example IMO as they take the traction variable out of the mix. The 335is have a hard time launching with either trans and that affects ET quite a bit. YMMV.

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Sniz Lieutenant General 654 Rep 10,587 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	I believe Shiv holds at least the fastest record.....not sure though. if you like to drive a manual, then get it. Who cares if you can launch a little better at the drag strip. Drag racing is likely .001% of your cars total use. I enjoy rowing the gears myself tremendously......even if i'm just cruising to Quizno's or something mundane. My pickup truck is an auto....my car isn't and won't be. __________________
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hubble bubble Captain 17 Rep 680 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada iTrader: (0)	MT is faster, but auto is easier to go fast. MT is more fun too. BMW's official website gives a MT 0.2 seconds faster to 60. And you can shave another 0.6 off the "official" time if you are willing to just drop the clutch at 4000rpm. (I'm not)
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McMuffin Lieutenant Colonel 104 Rep 1,549 Posts Drives: A Widebody 92 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Califas iTrader: (5)	Oh o then followed by . < We all know who that is. Get a 6MT and install a 3.46 final drive.
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ianthegreat Colonel 60 Rep 2,314 Posts Drives: n54 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pittsburgh/Houston iTrader: (1)	I feel like my girlfriend would drive an automatic. Just sayin'
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Terrance28 Brigadier General 109 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: Crimson Red E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (17)	And if she would she would be faster than you haha jk. __________________ Mods list got too long, lets just say more than enough.
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deletedelete Major General 361 Rep 5,873 Posts Drives: m Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: usa iTrader: (14) Garage List 2013 e92 M3 [0.00] 2011 e93 M3 (sold) [0.00] 2009 335xi (sold) [0.00]	Im pretty sure this has been argued many times, but the understanding is that the auto is faster. But if you enjoy driving a manual, then you shouldnt care about a few tenths of a second at the track. If your that concerned about the track times, get a track car. I think that Shiv has the fastest mt. Or the highest trap. I can't remember. Either way he has a fast mt. __________________ ---> Click For xi/xDrive Suspension Compatibility List <--- Last edited by deletedelete; 10-20-2009 at 06:32 PM..
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lamia2super Colonel 142 Rep 2,661 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami Beach, FL iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [10.00]	AT is for **!!! lol I have a MT and its hard not to go fast because of how much fun it is going threw the gears. __________________ FOR SALE** https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...0#post25342440
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SchwarzOpsAZ Private First Class 19 Rep 163 Posts Drives: 09 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 335i [0.00]	+1000 Re: how much more fun to drive manuals are. I'm not sure why people are putting so much credit into how fast a BMW can go in a straight line. It's a drivers car, drag cars are tubbed and are really just engines on wheels. BMWs are built to enjoy driving (3'ers anyway), and a 6MT just makes it even more enjoyable (IMO). So go for the MT __________________
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BavarianBullet Lieutenant 18 Rep 429 Posts Drives: 2014 Audi S5 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (1)	I'm surprised no one pointed out the fact that we haven't really seen anyone (other than shiv?) go to the track with the new bogfix maps yet which will make the 6MTs a little better ET and mph. Previously the non-stock 6MTs were slowed some unquantified amount by the computer closing the throttle after shifts. Now that this has been addressed by the major tuners (Procede, Juicebox and I think CPE; flashes???), it will be interesting to see how the 6MTs fare vs the 6ATs. Stock vs stock I don't think there's an appreciable difference assuming the 6MTs take out the ridiculous CDV and have a decent driver not granny-shifting. BobVader in his modded 6MT 335xi ran 11.9x on race gas (pre-bogfix) and the fastest modded 6AT 335xi ran about the same. I think those are quickest 335XIs at the moment: http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335xi-Drag-Racing.html. The 335XIs are a good example IMO as they take the traction variable out of the mix. The 335is have a hard time launching with either trans and that affects ET quite a bit. YMMV. __________________ 2014 Audi S5 DSG 2011 335xi Sedan (retired) 2008 335xi Sedan (retired)
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