[OGM2LCI]

Having owned my E92 for just over 6 months now I can help but deeply miss the hydraulic steering found on my old E46 and an old Leon FR previously owned

I find that this electronic steering stuff is so void of feedback and feel it's so disapointing...

Is it just me in this boat or are others feeling the same?

[Delta0311]

Wait what? The E9x cars have hydraulic steering. The electronic steering is in the F series.

[IanS100]

+1
I've just changed my e90 for an F10 and the e90 steering was great, good feel and not too light whereas the one big complaint I have about the F10 is the steering, it's electric and far too light and soulless.

[OGM2LCI]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Wait what? The E9x cars have hydraulic steering. The electronic steering is in the F series.

I'm sure that the 335's were fitted with hydraulic steering over the electronic steering, whereas my 2008 320d is fitted with electronic steering

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by James-B93

I'm sure that the 335's were fitted with hydraulic steering over the electronic steering?

F series cars use electronic steering the E9x cars all used hydraulic steering. I had a E90 328 and now I have a LCI E92 335 and they both use the same hydraulic steering system.

[OGM2LCI]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

F series cars use electronic steering the E9x cars all used hydraulic steering. I had a E90 328 and now I have a LCI E92 335 and they both use the same hydraulic steering system.

Checking realoem and also looking directly at my rack it would appear I have electronic steering. My rack looks like a normal steering rack only with a large (what appears to be) motor strapped to it, looking on this link;
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=32_1660

[OGM2LCI]

Originally Posted by IanS100

+1
I've just changed my e90 for an F10 and the e90 steering was great, good feel and not too light whereas the one big complaint I have about the F10 is the steering, it's electric and far too light and soulless.

Haven't experienced the F10 myself but have driven the new 118d with electronic steering and found it to be the same with what felt like a massive 'dead spot' in the centre when passing from turning left to right or vice versa

[Delta0311]

In the US all E9x cars came with hydraulic steering.. I know in Europe you get all sorts of options we don't get here so there is a possibility that you do have an electronic steering system..

[OGM2LCI]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

In the US all E9x cars came with hydraulic steering.. I know in Europe you get all sorts of options we don't get here so there is a possibility that you do have an electronic steering system..

If this is the case I am incredibly envious, im 90% sure mine does not have the hydraulic system that you guys are blessed with

It was fitted on my old E46 and it was my main love of that car

[AdamC]

Mines a 2008 320d and is not electric.

[djgandy]

Maybe it was an option?

Active steering - S217A?

Stick your VIN in here. http://www.bmwarchive.org/vin/bmw-vin-decoder.html

[OGM2LCI]

I've had a look and I definitely don't have the active steering option, however the rack I have is what realoem classes as electronic steering, you can see the motor here;

[OGM2LCI]

Either way I personally feel like the steering is too light and fairly vague, must just be me, regardless of whether active steering or no

[windymissile]

Originally Posted by James-B93

Checking realoem and also looking directly at my rack it would appear I have electronic steering. My rack looks like a normal steering rack only with a large (what appears to be) motor strapped to it, looking on this link;
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=32_1660

What year is your car..? I have never seen a E90 series car with electric steering. Even the dynamic steering is hydraulic.

WM

[OGM2LCI]

Car is 2008, must be wrong about the electric steering then, if so what is this large motor hanging off the rack?

[dy63]

my convertible 330d had electric steering i think so the garage said

[E92Dan]

Could it be the tyres that you are running that are causing the light steering?

[windymissile]

Originally Posted by James-B93

Car is 2008, must be wrong about the electric steering then, if so what is this large motor hanging off the rack?

No, I don't think you are wrong. Randomly they seem to have put electronic steering into some models.. Maybe looking into the next series they were testing the set up.
If this can be retrofitted into other E90 models, turbo upgrades for the 335i guys just got a whole lot more interesting!

WM

[OGM2LCI]

Well if I am an odd one out its awful, I haven't driven any other E92 so can't really say as to a 'general' steering feel but mine is so light compared to what I did have in the old E46, it's not light enough for there to be something wrong (I don't think!) but it's nowhere near what I would like!

[OGM2LCI]

Originally Posted by E92Dan

Could it be the tyres that you are running that are causing the light steering?

Possibly? Although they're not budgets or anything, F1 Eagles...non run flats, but steering didn't change much in feel when changing the tires

[IanS100]

My 2010 e90 320d was definitely hydraulic - when I bought it I remember being quite surprised how much heavier the steering was compared to my previous Vx Vectra and I certainly miss that weight in the F10, and I certainly agree about the centre 'dead spot'.

[windymissile]

REALOEM shows you are not the odd one out...



I guess BMW put them in some random models to try it out before the full implement on the next gen machine.

Rather soul destroyingly, I can't find it fitted to a single N54 or N55 derivative though..

WM