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      05-25-2015, 11:05 PM   #1
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Codes and limp mode

So today the car went into limp mode. I got these codes as well as a engine malfunction, DSC, and xdrive warning lights. Currently, the car sounds like it's gasping for air.

2CEF Throttle valve actuator, activation
2D09 Throttle Valve
CDAD Requirement road wheel torque drive line, BF

I also had a slew of other ones like 2E19, but I got rid of them after replacing the coilpack. The three I listed above are hard faulted, so I'm just going to replace the throttlebody. Hopefully that clears everything up.

Lastly, I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas what CDAD is actually referring to. I googled it but I still don't really know. Also, would like to know if anyone has any other ideas as to what could be the cause or what else I should replace (other than coils and spark plugs).

For reference, here are the codes I cleared out:
2A82
2A98
2E19
2A99
2CFB
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      05-25-2015, 11:23 PM   #2
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Hmm

Try cleaning the MAF, mine threw a torque limiting code of some sort a little bit ago.
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      05-26-2015, 12:29 AM   #3
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Hmm

Try cleaning the MAF, mine threw a torque limiting code of some sort a little bit ago.
Worth a shot. I'll hit it with some CRC MAF cleaner.
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      05-26-2015, 08:33 AM   #4
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BF is actually hex code for "relative Momentenforderung von MSR über CAN", or "relative torque demand of MSR via CAN".

could be caused by the limp mode.
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      05-26-2015, 11:35 AM   #5
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I think that just means its in limp mode. I would try the classic clean maf and vanos solenoids... has cleared the SES light for me on 3 different occations.
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      05-26-2015, 12:28 PM   #6
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BF is actually hex code for "relative Momentenforderung von MSR über CAN", or "relative torque demand of MSR via CAN".

could be caused by the limp mode.
Ok, then it'll hopefully get cleared after I get the car up and running again.

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I think that just means its in limp mode. I would try the classic clean maf and vanos solenoids... has cleared the SES light for me on 3 different occations.
Great, thanks. I'll see if cleaning the MAF does the trick.
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      05-27-2015, 11:04 AM   #7
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I hit the MAF with some cleaner today and nothing changed, engine cut off in 10secs.
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      05-27-2015, 11:37 AM   #8
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Unplug it completely. Did you clean/check the throttle body?
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      05-27-2015, 11:59 AM   #9
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Unplug it completely. Did you clean/check the throttle body?
I unplugged it before give it a liberal dose of MAF cleaner, let it dry and then plugged it back in. Throttle body is next on the list, I've got a replacement on the way. Then I've got to pull out the whole SC. I just have to find a day full day to dedicate to it.
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      05-27-2015, 01:12 PM   #10
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I unplugged it before give it a liberal dose of MAF cleaner, let it dry and then plugged it back in. Throttle body is next on the list, I've got a replacement on the way. Then I've got to pull out the whole SC. I just have to find a day full day to dedicate to it.
No, I mean try driving without the MAF hooked up.
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      05-27-2015, 02:00 PM   #11
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No, I mean try driving without the MAF hooked up.
Oh, I'll go give that a try. If it works, does that indicate a faulty MAF?
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Oh, I'll go give that a try. If it works, does that indicate a faulty MAF?
Likely
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      05-27-2015, 02:44 PM   #13
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Likely
Thanks, I'll give that a try when I get home.
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      05-27-2015, 10:18 PM   #14
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Gave it a go with the MAF unplugged and the car couldn't even stay on for 5 seconds before it cut off.
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So it's not the MAF, the car should normally be able to tun with the base map. Throttle body would be the next step.
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So it's not the MAF, the car should normally be able to tun with the base map. Throttle body would be the next step.
Yeah, just waiting for it to arrive.
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You didn't try cleaning the stock on first?
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It's just some insurance.
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      05-28-2015, 02:55 PM   #19
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I've cleaned my TB to no avail. I still get the throttle valve errors from time to time.

Please let us know the outcome of the replacing the TB. I know someone on here already did and the results were, well, not promising. Same symptoms.
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So I found some time to replace the throttle body today. I even put in new plugs and coils.

The plugs were all carbon fouled and the new ones are already getting carbon deposits.

The car now starts but has a really rough idle, which shakes the entire car. It hovers 300-500rpm.

The current codes:

2ABC Charging pressure sensor, electrical
2DEB Power management, Vehicle wiring system control
0000 Failure location not implemented
2CFB Throttle Valve adaptation value
2FA3 Coding missing
2D09 Butterfly Valve
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Could your battery be kaput? Some of those codes make no sense, esppecially 0000. Do you have a tune?
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Could your battery be kaput? Some of those codes make no sense, esppecially 0000. Do you have a tune?
Yea, I have the ESS supercharger and they had the car tuned in house. As for the battery, it's OEM and not even 2yrs old. I even had a battery tender on it while I tried debugging everything.
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