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What kind of MPGs does your n52 get?
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07-10-2016, 01:19 PM | #67 | |
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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07-11-2016, 02:56 AM | #68 | |
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07-11-2016, 05:11 AM | #69 |
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Haven't seen the video so I can't comment. I used my scan tool. The procedure calls for a scan tool. The normal service functions available in the cluster do not have the routine to have the ECU relearn the mechanical limits of the Valvetronic motor.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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07-11-2016, 05:44 PM | #70 |
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When you have replaced or refitted the Valvetronic motor, there is a basic calibration that the system does simply by inserting the key fob and turning the ignition on (foot off pedals). It will do this calibration only once it seems. After that, it is apparently fine, but you can then use the BMW scan tool to do a fine calibration, but from what I have read, this is not really necessary, but I have my doubts obviously. Important thing is that this basic calibration HAS to be done first! Reason for saying this, I had a new Valvetronic motor fitted (was incorrectly diagnosed problem I reckon), and the only reason why I had the garage fit it was because they had the diagnostics equipment to calibrated it etc. However, when I collected the car, it drove and felt horrible! The throttle behaviour was strange and jerky, and then when I gave it some beans up a long quiet hill, she wouldn't go over 6000 rpm or so! I returned home and after some reading up decided to see what would happen if I tried the basic calibration, and it worked. I could hear it cycled the end stops and it only did it the one time, meaning that this step was clearly skipped by the garage - they simply fitted the new part and went straight to the fine calibration part. After that, the car felt fine.
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07-18-2016, 12:49 AM | #71 |
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06 330i all stock 206K 65% highway(automatic) 10% city SF (manual) and 25% mountain roads(manual). combined 26.5
Highway 32-34mpg on average. unless the AC is on then it all goes to sh*t |
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07-18-2016, 05:01 AM | #73 |
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07-18-2016, 09:48 AM | #75 |
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07-18-2016, 04:04 PM | #78 |
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How much larger, maybe I shouldn't post so late at night too.
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08-02-2016, 04:03 PM | #81 |
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It's not that crazy. These engines are very efficient when not pushed too hard. Steady cruising at 90mph yields over 30 mpg. Driving on I-95 between Daytona and Jax, with avg speed of 87 mph, yielded average consumption of 34 mpg.
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08-02-2016, 09:31 PM | #82 |
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That's just a pretty high rpm to be getting that kind of mileage.
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08-03-2016, 08:41 AM | #83 |
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The N52 has a variable coolant temperature strategy dependant on load, this may indicate what the most efficient cruising speeds are.
The four modes are as follows: • 112°C ECO mode • 105°C Normal mode • 95°C High mode • 80°C High + mapped thermostat mode It would be interesting to see what the maximum permissible speeds are whilst remaining in each mode. On the open road, 87mph is 3000rpm, I wonder if this is the switching point from normal to high. Can't see Eco mode being active at that speed/load. Obviously gradient will affect the load and therefore the strategy. |
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08-03-2016, 11:16 AM | #85 | |
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Has anyone actually caught their car holding a lower water temperature? Maybe you only trigger these temperature settings on a track. You would think that the Sport Button would issue a command for lower cooling temp. |
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08-03-2016, 04:30 PM | #86 |
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I think you would only see the lower temps under continuous high load. I haven't looked too closely to see exactly what activates them. I'd expect most of the time it would target 105c. And unless it's knocking - you don't actually make more power with a cooler engine, exactly the opposite.
have you logged the value with testo? |
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08-03-2016, 04:31 PM | #87 |
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I have a '06 330i 6MT all stock. Driving: 75% freeway 25% town, gets approx. 27 mpg from tank to tank.
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08-03-2016, 05:59 PM | #88 |
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Just been on a 100mile round trip with the OBD hidden menu displaying engine temp and Carly App displaying rpm, coolant temp, torque and water pump speed.
Firstly, under no circumstances could I get the coolant to 112degC, even 6th gear, 1300rpm, 30Nm torque for a couple of miles. In 6th, up to approx 60-65mph the ECU targets 105 degC, once above this speed the target appears to be 100degC. Once above 90mph, the target seems to drop by 1degC every 5mph. Made it to 110mph where the temp was 95-96degC. A more accurate way of observing would be rpm against torque, but as I was on my own I chose to concentrate on driving. Some observations from the carly when I could catch a glance. The pump speed seems to be the dominant temp regulating factor. On the carly app, the pump speed is indicated from 20-250 (no units specified but presumably rpm). When accelerating reasonably hard the pump runs up to 250 pretty quick and the temp plummets towards 80degC. Once at 80, the pump remains at 250(rpm) where I'm guessing the thermostat becomes dominant in the temperature regulation. At 80mph, the pump speed is approx 130-140, torque is 100-120Nm. Probably OT, but interesting all the same. |
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