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06-17-2013, 07:00 PM | #23 |
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I HATE someone just saying "buy a 335"
In my mind, tuning a car means trying to push the car to its limit. I think a N52 with 300hp will be much more impresive than a N54 with 400hp. So for me, it doesn't matter wether I have a 300hp car or 400hp car, instead, is that possible to push the car further with affordable resource matters. If you just want hp, you can always saving $ and trade in you XXX for a YYY untill you have a bugatti. In this route, you don't need to mod you car at all, it's waste of $. However, I really doubt the N52 can be S/Ced, as it has been stated many times, the engine itself isn't strong enough to handle boost. My concern as well as many others is not how long will the blower last but how long will our engine last. Last edited by ObiChen; 06-17-2013 at 07:11 PM.. |
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06-17-2013, 07:13 PM | #24 |
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OP has modded SATURN, doubts 450whp 335i exists, thinks N52 is somehow "beefier" than N54.
OP has gone full retard. 3 times. In one thread. |
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06-17-2013, 07:27 PM | #25 | |
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06-17-2013, 08:05 PM | #28 | |
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Honestly, being original isn't always the best way to get something done, that's why so many people do what's tried and true.
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^^^ that was a good one!! If ever a perfect time to cue that one up!! hahaha touché!
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I didn't mean to get you going...I'm sorry Combat Ninja. Didn't mean to shit on your opinion, if that's what you got out of it. Was a good topic for me, got me through a Monday....If I ever meet you, we can have a drink, on me (if your of age) If you all feel it was Apologies fellas, we'll see what goes down either way, who knows 335 might be the best bet. M3 could be the best bet. Hell, I could wake up with a bag of sense and just get the damn Corvette already. Good talk either way...I'm sure I got some gears rolling. I appreciate the input guys....sarcasm n all, its what makes a forum a forum.
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For many people, wanting more power cannot be the reason to buy another car, espetially when you need to trade in your current car for it. |
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06-17-2013, 11:21 PM | #32 | |
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But that's blasphemy. Especially in the *GASP* NA Engine (non-turbo) / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications sub-forum. Good night ladies and gentlemen I will say this though...torque made by the 335 guys leaves even the lightly modded M3 guys a bit envious >.<
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06-18-2013, 09:59 PM | #33 | |
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Take your $$$$ reserved for N52 SC experiment and instead gut the car and replace all body panels with CF including roof. There is your recipe for high performance machine with solid chassis, suspension, brakes and reliable engine. |
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06-18-2013, 10:08 PM | #34 |
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Just posting something I found... Maybe the biggest reason not to test supercharging on an engine you payed for.
http://www.***********.com/content.p...feet-of-torque if those engines designed for forced induction are failing, i would be careful. Even though it looks like the trouble is from BMW deciding to run higher temperatures to increase turbocharger efficiency, i wouldnt mess around with that EDIT: Sorry about the link.. maybe you can google for it
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06-19-2013, 10:39 AM | #35 | |
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I'm also a firm believer in it's never been about the horses, more so the chariot in which they pull...I definitely can't sacrifice my comfort in the name of performance though. I've also managed to build a 4.0 cu ft MDF box to house a dd9515 in the trunk of my bimmer >.< talk about added weight, but I need my bass. I'm thinking of grabbing a 318 or E30 chassis though.... Quote:
All of the "we've put this engine through XYZ rigorous test and trails to bring you dependability" bs.....it's done in the real world by the consumer....me & you. They then respond and address the most relevant while hoping there's only a few bad lemons that come to the surface. On the other end of the stick...I was drawn to this N52 engine in the bimmer just out of the fact that this N52 has been put through the paces a while, a nice continuation of the S52 and that's across the entire planet bimmers are driven...I agree though, definitely was not designed with boost in mind. We boosted a buddies S52 to 12psi, it was holding up well before I left but I need to get an update. Key factor in the article though. Heat was a major factor, heat is the no.1 enemy of forced induction systems, turbos give plenty of it, & its needed to generate the power. Maybe a simple block mod, better performing intercooler will come out in version 2 of the N20. Quote:
Another key feature that could work "with" vs "against" could also be the linear application of power it delivers. The progressive style is either really liked by most of the tuners or really hated due to the delay of the power because its obviously based on how fast your going. For us, the delay could relieve further stress on the tranny. But it'd probably deliver a decent amount of power early on. I gotta keep reminding myself this was supposed to be my convenient worry free vehicle that I bought because I could take it anywhere in the world and get by worry free!
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06-19-2013, 08:06 PM | #37 |
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I won't say go buy a 335i, but one out of warranty pushing 400-450hp to the wheels is easily done with a tune, basic bolt on's and some e85. Reliably as well. I don't have any issues with mine at these levels. Just wanted to clarify the Ops first post.
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06-19-2013, 11:42 PM | #38 |
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Thanks for posting up your experiences, I do have E85 readily available as well, that's good to know. I'm definitely not opposed to the 335, just finding the right one at the right price @ the right dealership (I hate trading in)
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06-23-2013, 10:50 AM | #39 |
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I wish I had the option to just pay a few K's and trade in for a 335i or let alone a M3, but here in Thailand car taxes are 328% so I paid a good 100k$ for a USED 325i, upgrading to an 335i would easily be another 50k$.
Buying a used M3 is about 220k$, so I personally would really love to get more power out of the N52. For the non-believers: one2car. com/BMW_SERIES%203/C20550214 -- Price is 4,490,000 THB which is 144,210.81 USD Even e46 m3's from 2001 cost you at least 50k$ |
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06-23-2013, 01:33 PM | #41 | |
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Nonetheless, if the tranny cant handle it, it is still pointless. |
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