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SpyPix--BMW 335d in Final U.S. Tests (282 hp / 428 lb-ft)
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07-09-2008, 12:05 PM | #89 | |
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as said elsewhere in this thread, the mpg estimates for the BMW diesel are very conservative (compared to the EU numbers). Another thing that is helpful in the analysis is to calculate miles per dollar between diesel and gas, using real world numbers for both. |
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07-09-2008, 12:58 PM | #90 | |
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1) You are right; Americans tend to get a calculator out to see if diesel is worth it. I did this in part out of my own curiosity and in part to give people hard numbers, rather than assertions based on the price of diesel alone; 2) I have heard that there will be a price premium for the 335d, and, setting aside the performance issues, I was curious to know how much it would cost compared to a 335i, if the straight line performance was close to an apples-to-apples comparison, other than the number of revs hit; 3) The 335d comes in automatic only, and I'm a committed manual driver; I wanted to see how the numbers stacked up to potentially persuade me to buy an automatic. |
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07-09-2008, 01:31 PM | #91 | |
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My 328i gets 33 mpg highway. I bet the 335d will also get more than 33 mph highway though. And the fuel savings are sort of negated by the 335d's higher price vs the 328i/335i. At least for a couple of years. |
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07-09-2008, 01:35 PM | #92 |
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Filler cap states ''No Bio-diesel''.
Shame the US spec one is down on power. A cracking car.
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Highway you can get 40+mpg cruising at 90mph..
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07-09-2008, 03:00 PM | #96 |
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07-09-2008, 03:41 PM | #98 |
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07-09-2008, 03:45 PM | #99 |
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why not? it's a cool tool to have
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07-09-2008, 03:57 PM | #100 |
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Why do people need a 3 series at all?
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07-09-2008, 06:25 PM | #102 |
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keep in mind "small" desiel engines generally return better than epa estimated mileage..... read a bit about actual mileage returned from vw 1.9tdi's vs epa estimates..
the problem is the 335d will likely cost MORE than a 335i.... i doubt bmw is going to offer any incentive to get the diesel ball rolling.... |
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07-09-2008, 06:41 PM | #103 |
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Ehh, if you park daily in NYC or other major city, you'll love this. Instead of having valet park guys scratching your bumpers, you keep car somewhat ok.
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07-09-2008, 07:16 PM | #104 |
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07-09-2008, 11:21 PM | #105 |
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...because it's a diesel. Longer stroke, sturdier block, higher compression.
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07-09-2008, 11:33 PM | #106 |
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Because the turbo's are pressurizing the engine with 26PSI of boost. Give it 8.5PSI of boost like the 335i, and your looking at less torque than the 335i. The diesel needs its 26psi of boost to make its 265HP, otherwise it would be a gutless wonder like diesels of the past.
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07-10-2008, 01:20 AM | #107 |
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Why does the 335d only come in auto? That torque would make heel-and-toeing so much easier.
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07-10-2008, 04:32 AM | #108 | |
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Your results are skewed. Only using highway mileage is not the way to figure savings. You need to use combined mpg numbers. Also east coast diesel is expensive, so your region wouldn't see the savings others would. Although it would increase using combined mpg. Using my local(Huntington Beach, CA) prices for Premium and Diesel, same station. Price of premium: $4.65 Price of diesel: $5.09 Miles driven per year: 15,000 335i combined mpg : 31.0 335d combined mpg : 42.2 335i total annual gallons consumed (15,000/31.0): 484 335d total annual gallons consumed (15,000/42.2): 355 335i total annual fuel cost (484x$4.31): $2,250.60 335d total annual fuel cost (355 x $4.99): $1806.95 Savings: $443.65/year Basically it comes down to what your local gas and diesel prices are. Didn't use the 328i, I couldn't find a combined mpg number for it. Not to mention the 335d is nicer to the enviroment. Co2 Emissions (g/m): 335i - 218 335d - 177 The 335d is ~27% more fuel efficient, 31.0 mpg combined vs. 42.2 mpg combined. 335d Co2 emissions are about ~19% less. |
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