PKumarM3: ETS FMIC Arrival, Install, Impressions, Dyno Testing

PKumarM3 · 01-27-2011, 05:35 PM

hey guys

this is going to be an ongoing thread. I just received my ETS FMIC in the mail. Next will be a dyno of my car stock w/just a DCI. Then the install and impressions. Then a dyno with FMIC and a dyno with FMIC and a Procede V5

Ok here we go

I love beautiful welds

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-27-2011, 05:40 PM

Looks amazing

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-27-2011, 05:42 PM

I want to sell my HPF to get this now in 7 core though

themyst · 01-27-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

I want to sell my HPF to get this now

ill trade u my ETS (same one as this) for ur HPF

cn555ic · 01-27-2011, 05:49 PM

Wow its only one half inch bigger than the OEM one that measure 4.5 inches in depth, I think...I thought they came out with one thats 7 inches in depth

themyst · 01-27-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Wow its only one half inch bigger than the OEM one that measure 4.5 inches in depth, I think...I thought they came out with one thats 7 inches in depth

better core, better plumbing compared to stock

ETS Michael · 01-27-2011, 05:51 PM

We do have one that is 7.0" as well as 5.0" - We have 2 versions.

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Wow its only one half inch bigger than the OEM one that measure 4.5 inches in depth, I think...I thought they came out with one thats 7 inches in depth

The OEM core is a dual path and has a block in the middle of the core. If you take the OEM intercooler apart it has a total flow area of about 3.5"

Michael

cn555ic · 01-27-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ETS Michael

We do have one that is 7.0" as well as 5.0" - We have 2 versions.

The OEM core is a dual path and has a block in the middle of the core. If you take the OEM intercooler apart it has a total flow area of about 3.5"

Michael

LOL I have no doubt its so much more efficient than the OEM one, I just thought your new 7inch core design are the ones that you sell only now! IMO I feel for the N54 the bigger depth is more efficient than the taller FMICs out there and I am glad you offer a 7 incher!

ETS Michael · 01-27-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

LOL I have no doubt its so much more efficient than the OEM one, I just thought your new 7inch core design are the ones that you sell only now! IMO I feel for the N54 the bigger depth is more efficient than the taller FMICs out there and I am glad you offer a 7 incher!

We offer the new fin design on both cores

It's hard to argue with more flow and efficiency

Michael

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-27-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

ill trade u my ETS (same one as this) for ur HPF

Edit 7 core

, I don't like hpf using all the restrictive piping

vasillalov · 01-27-2011, 06:43 PM

When Michael? When are you putting up the 7 incher on the market?

ETS Michael · 01-27-2011, 06:47 PM

I can build it whenever anyone is ready for it

Once i get one built for my car I will post up pictures and get it up on the site!

Michael

hipnotic · 01-27-2011, 06:52 PM

nice parts and nice dog

cn555ic · 01-27-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

Edit 7 core

, I don't like hpf using all the restrictive piping

restrictive piping but better endtank with HPF so I guess it cancels out!...either way the 7inch is the way to go

MDORPHN · 01-27-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

restrictive piping but better endtank with HPF so I guess it cancels out!...either way the 7inch is the way to go

FWIW, interesting post by Biz77 on another thread:

Neil

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Going with an ultra thick core may be fine on a vehicle that sees racetrack duty where speeds are constantly into the triple digits, as this allows enough airflow to effectively cool a thick core. On a street-driven car, a thick intercooler will heatsoak and you will unlikey have enough airflow to cool it effectively. Maxnix's logic is pretty much spot on. Once the ambient air has absorbed latent heat at the front of the intercooler, there is no longer a large temperature differential at the back of a thick core to absorb additional heat, especially at street driven speeds. The only reason to go thicker is if your core is limiting overall flow, but it seems a moot point as we've already seen that an intercooler with a larger face can be fitted (Big Tom and AA.)

Both Bell intercoolers and Spearco (Turbonetics) offer a FAQ section that is very helpful in pin pointing the important design criteria for an air-air intercooler.

cn555ic · 01-27-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MDORPHN

FWIW, interesting post by Biz77 on another thread:

Neil

____________

Going with an ultra thick core may be fine on a vehicle that sees racetrack duty where speeds are constantly into the triple digits, as this allows enough airflow to effectively cool a thick core. On a street-driven car, a thick intercooler will heatsoak and you will unlikey have enough airflow to cool it effectively. Maxnix's logic is pretty much spot on. Once the ambient air has absorbed latent heat at the front of the intercooler, there is no longer a large temperature differential at the back of a thick core to absorb additional heat, especially at street driven speeds. The only reason to go thicker is if your core is limiting overall flow, but it seems a moot point as we've already seen that an intercooler with a larger face can be fitted (Big Tom and AA.)

Both Bell intercoolers and Spearco (Turbonetics) offer a FAQ section that is very helpful in pin pointing the important design criteria for an air-air intercooler.

well thats what opinions are for! Everyone has their own views...

NiVeDh · 01-27-2011, 08:08 PM

Nice, looking forward to install pictures.

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-27-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

well thats what opinions are for! Everyone has their own views...

These end tanks are more than good enough honestly

dadgar · 01-27-2011, 08:28 PM

Why not put in the procede V5 now before your dynos and then when dynoing with each additional mod do it in the stock map and a performance map. That way you will see your total gains and the gains with each upgrade using procede.

Forcefed3 · 01-27-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

ill trade u my ETS (same one as this) for ur HPF

Edit 7 core

, I don't like hpf using all the restrictive piping

The new hpf cp will replace it. And it is fine already, hpf has some of the highest gains. You need to research more.

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-27-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

The new hpf cp will replace it. And it is fine already, hpf has some of the highest gains. You need to research more.

Yeah highest gains in their shop maybe lol and by the time that charge pipe will come out I'll sell the car and it will probably cost a 1000 bucks anyway

Penn999 · 01-27-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

restrictive piping but better endtank with HPF so I guess it cancels out!...either way the 7inch is the way to go

HPF's stage 2(fmic) kit will include an upgraded pipe and eliminate the OEM connections, they will be wider to support more airflow. Im not sure of the cost yet but I am going to give them a call tomorrow and figure how to do the upgrade. Im interested if there is a power diff. bc Chris at HPF said it wont really come into play until you make over 450-500whp. What are your thoughts on this??

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

The new hpf cp will replace it. And it is fine already, hpf has some of the highest gains. You need to research more.

+1, has anyone else dyno'd their car with the HPF fmic installed? Preferably a FBO car. I just want something to compare mine to.

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