Tire shine and issues

HyperM3 · 10-18-2007, 11:31 AM

Ok, so Ive been trying all these different type of tire shines to no avail. My problem is not finding the ones that last the longest or have the deepest gloss. Its the fact that no matter which one I try, it always leaves a mess on my fenders from being kicked off the tires when I start driving.

Whether its the spray or gel, or even leaving the car to sit for 24 hours before I drive it, it just keeps happening.

What do you guys recommend or find works best for you?

phantom330 · 10-18-2007, 11:35 AM

I've tried everything and have almost always had the exact same issue. It's very irritating because I'm such a detailing fanatic. you spend hours on the paint, and no matter how long (i've let dressing dry for two days before) it still flings on your car and wheels when you drive. It's very annoying, the car looks great until you drive it. I've found the only type of product that doesn't do it (also doesn't last or shine very well) is just a normal all purpose protectant, like Armor All or something similar. I usually just use armor all since it won't fling, although the shine lasts a couple days max, but I'd rather apply it again then have to wash the car over because the tire dressing flings all over.

I'm sure somebody will come in and say XX product doesn't fling, but if it leaves a high gloss it is going to fling. I've literally tried EVERYTHING! Best of luck. Btw, Armor All really isn't the best product, and I wouldn't use it on anything but my tires, but it doesn't fling and that's all I'm concerned with at this point.

Detailed Image · 10-18-2007, 12:38 PM

Look into water based tire dressings if you are having problems with sling. They will get absorbed into your rubber and actually nourish the tires, keeping them soft and flexible rather than drying them out. Many tire dressings are silicone based, which sit on the surface of your tire which often results in slinging on to your paint as you drive. They also have the tendency to dry out or brown your tires, which can also hurt the life of your tire.

Water based dressings do not last as long and do not give off the wettest looking shine, but they certainly are safer and better for your tires (and paint).

Our best selling water based dressing is Poorboy's World Bold 'n Bright. This gives off a nice medium gloss and is easy to apply. Another option is to use 303 Aerospace Protectant on your tires. It is also water based, and also provides UV protection. The 303 gives more of a matte / new tire look though with minimal gloss.

The key to durability and maximum effectiveness from a water based dressing is to make sure your tire is properly prepped. I turn to Poorboy's Biodegradable APC to prep my tires before applying a dressing.

If you have any other questions on tire care, let me know.

George

HyperM3 · 10-18-2007, 12:43 PM

^ Thanks George!

UncleWede · 10-19-2007, 12:07 AM

Do the water-based tire dressings rub off on your hands, pants, and wash mitt?

wrickem · 10-19-2007, 04:19 AM

I only use Meguiars Endurance which I usually buy from their website because it's a little hard to find. It comes in high gloss and regular and there is absolutely NO SPIN OFF. And I mean none at all. It lasts a long time too and when it does wear off, your tires are still black.

http://www.meguiars.com/?tire-care/Gold-Class-Endurance

RedGT3 · 10-19-2007, 06:59 AM

I use Tire Shine with no problems. Try this don't spray the product directly to the tire instead spray into a rag or cloth then apply to the tire. you might need to apply twice but results are great.

ducati955 · 10-19-2007, 07:45 AM

heys guys, use that uv stuff, i forget the name... formula something or whatever, its like spf for your car or whatever, i usde it on my tires, its amazing

Ph0zenstone · 10-19-2007, 08:13 AM

i use the meguiars endurance gel as well...its purple and stored in a clear bottle. That stuff is really amazing, it flings a little bit but it lasts very long and is extremely shiny.

HyperM3 · 10-19-2007, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phozenstone

i use the meguiars endurance gel as well...its purple and stored in a clear bottle. That stuff is really amazing, it flings a little bit but it lasts very long and is extremely shiny.

Thats the last stuff Ive been using. It flings like a bitch. I have all these black specs on the side of my car and my fender linings are black. I put on 2 coats with an applicator 12 hours apart and didnt drive the car for another 12 hours. Rediculous.

phantom330 · 10-19-2007, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperM3

Thats the last stuff Ive been using. It flings like a bitch. I have all these black specs on the side of my car and my fender linings are black. I put on 2 coats with an applicator 12 hours apart and didnt drive the car for another 12 hours. Rediculous.

agree, i've used that as well with poor results, I also always spray it onto an applicator and it doesn't make a difference. I agree that any silicone based products are going to fling because they aren't going to be absorbed into the rubber like a water based type. I think some people aren't as anal as other with their detailing, so a little fling on the side really isn't noticed like some do.

dlwhite · 10-19-2007, 08:21 AM

I tried mop and glo once. ONCE! I looked sharp until I drove the car. My tires looked like they had leprosy.

Detailed Image · 10-19-2007, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Do the water-based tire dressings rub off on your hands, pants, and wash mitt?

They shouldn't, unless you are talking about just after application and you leave the product on thick. Certainly a much lower risk of that happening than silicone based products.

The only downside of the water based dressings is they do not last as long, so after a few washes, they need to be reapplied for that bold wet look.

George

ducati955 · 10-19-2007, 09:14 AM

aerospace 303 is all youn need!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

picus · 10-19-2007, 10:49 AM

As George mentioned the #1 reason dressings sling is that they are put on a dirty tire. Tires sometimes look clean, and aren't. Spray them with some all purpose cleaner then give them a good scrub with a brush, then let them dry completely before applying any dressing.

I use the same stuff George mentioned, poorboys bold 'n bright; never had sling as a problem and it's reasonably glossy; and you can apply many coats for more gloss. You can see thousands of pics of it in use on my site.

CnoteMD · 10-19-2007, 10:56 AM

I've found that the issue with tire dressing "sling" is often related to the amount being used. As someone in this thread mentioned, it is impossible to get a high gloss on the tires without sling.

I only apply tire dressing after the tires have been throroughly cleaned and dried. Then I apply only a small amount of tire dressing to my tires (Meguires Endurance). Similar to my waxing technique, less is more. The sidewalls aren't shiny, but they no longer appear dull. I get no "sling" and the finish lasts until my next wash.

wrickem · 10-19-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperM3

Thats the last stuff Ive been using. It flings like a bitch. I have all these black specs on the side of my car and my fender linings are black. I put on 2 coats with an applicator 12 hours apart and didnt drive the car for another 12 hours. Rediculous.

Maybe you're putting it on too heavily because I get great shine and absolutely NO spots on my cars at all...and I mean NONE. My 328xi is only 3 months old and is in showroom condition including the wheel wells so even a spot the size of a flea would be noticable to someone as anal about it as I am (yeah, I am the guy who has to pull over when a bird shits on my windshield and clean it with paper towels...think "Monk" here).
After I put it on with the applicator I kind of "buff" it around the tires using about the same pressure that you would use if you were shining your shoes so there's no glop or residue on them. One coat does it for mine and puts a nice shine on them. Even if I "clean and go", I don't have a problem with spotting with Endurance.

ducati955 · 10-20-2007, 07:34 AM

um hello?

what about 303? workx amazing... put on on dirty/clean whatever , u are done, and u need so little of it too....

HyperM3 · 10-20-2007, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducati955

what about 303? workx amazing... put on on dirty/clean whatever , u are done, and u need so little of it too....

Whats 303?

wrickem · 10-20-2007, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducati955

um hello?

what about 303? workx amazing... put on on dirty/clean whatever , u are done, and u need so little of it too....

I thought most people agreed that was better for the inside than the outside. WHen I used it on my tires, it went away in like 5 minutes. On the other hand, it works great on the inside trim!

Hyperm3, it's an aerospace protectant. I am sure you searched already and you'll see that like everything else around here, everybody has a different opinion. 303's worth a try though since you are having trouble finding something you like. Good luck

turbojet3 · 10-22-2007, 07:56 PM

I have tried them all. Dupont teflon tire shine is the only one I use now.
It is dry to the touch, does not fling and it is water resistant. Also it doesn't attract dirt or turn the tire brown.

mrtbmw · 10-23-2007, 09:39 PM

Never had a sling issue with it - my tires look great for weeks, it is easy to apply and nourishes the tire.

Aero 303 is great too - but I use that on the inside mostly.

Don't forget the Poorboy's wheel sealant as well on the rims, I just wipe of my rims each night and they look like new.

10-18-2007, 11:31 AM	#1
HyperM3 Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort 342 Rep 6,188 Posts Drives: See Sig Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (8)	Tire shine and issues Ok, so Ive been trying all these different type of tire shines to no avail. My problem is not finding the ones that last the longest or have the deepest gloss. Its the fact that no matter which one I try, it always leaves a mess on my fenders from being kicked off the tires when I start driving. Whether its the spray or gel, or even leaving the car to sit for 24 hours before I drive it, it just keeps happening. What do you guys recommend or find works best for you? __________________ 13 HD FatBob 17 A4 Glacier/Black 1st Edition/Pre+/Sport/EurocodeTMD/Racechip 16 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),13 S6 (gone),10 S4 (gone) 07 335i(gone)
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phantom330 Captain 18 Rep 892 Posts Drives: e93 335i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: OH iTrader: (0)	I've tried everything and have almost always had the exact same issue. It's very irritating because I'm such a detailing fanatic. you spend hours on the paint, and no matter how long (i've let dressing dry for two days before) it still flings on your car and wheels when you drive. It's very annoying, the car looks great until you drive it. I've found the only type of product that doesn't do it (also doesn't last or shine very well) is just a normal all purpose protectant, like Armor All or something similar. I usually just use armor all since it won't fling, although the shine lasts a couple days max, but I'd rather apply it again then have to wash the car over because the tire dressing flings all over. I'm sure somebody will come in and say XX product doesn't fling, but if it leaves a high gloss it is going to fling. I've literally tried EVERYTHING! Best of luck. Btw, Armor All really isn't the best product, and I wouldn't use it on anything but my tires, but it doesn't fling and that's all I'm concerned with at this point.
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Detailed Image 360 Rep 5,052 Posts Drives: Detailed by Detailed Image Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Albany, NY iTrader: (5)	Look into water based tire dressings if you are having problems with sling. They will get absorbed into your rubber and actually nourish the tires, keeping them soft and flexible rather than drying them out. Many tire dressings are silicone based, which sit on the surface of your tire which often results in slinging on to your paint as you drive. They also have the tendency to dry out or brown your tires, which can also hurt the life of your tire. Water based dressings do not last as long and do not give off the wettest looking shine, but they certainly are safer and better for your tires (and paint). Our best selling water based dressing is Poorboy's World Bold 'n Bright. This gives off a nice medium gloss and is easy to apply. Another option is to use 303 Aerospace Protectant on your tires. It is also water based, and also provides UV protection. The 303 gives more of a matte / new tire look though with minimal gloss. The key to durability and maximum effectiveness from a water based dressing is to make sure your tire is properly prepped. I turn to Poorboy's Biodegradable APC to prep my tires before applying a dressing. If you have any other questions on tire care, let me know. George
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HyperM3 Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort 342 Rep 6,188 Posts Drives: See Sig Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (8)	^ Thanks George! __________________ 13 HD FatBob 17 A4 Glacier/Black 1st Edition/Pre+/Sport/EurocodeTMD/Racechip 16 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),13 S6 (gone),10 S4 (gone) 07 335i(gone)
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wrickem Big Beaver Smile 2101 Rep 3,791 Posts Drives: What he wants to Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: lambertville nj iTrader: (0)	I only use Meguiars Endurance which I usually buy from their website because it's a little hard to find. It comes in high gloss and regular and there is absolutely NO SPIN OFF. And I mean none at all. It lasts a long time too and when it does wear off, your tires are still black. http://www.meguiars.com/?tire-care/Gold-Class-Endurance __________________ ______________________________________________ Current- '21 430 , '19 911, 07 M6 ,'17 Jeep Wrangler, "23 Bronco OBXluxsquatch Last edited by wrickem; 10-19-2007 at 04:20 AM.. Reason: spelling mistake
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RedGT3 Major 76 Rep 1,253 Posts Drives: .2 GT3/M3cs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (3)	I use Tire Shine with no problems. Try this don't spray the product directly to the tire instead spray into a rag or cloth then apply to the tire. you might need to apply twice but results are great.
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Ph0zenstone Major General 325 Rep 5,370 Posts Drives: 2018 530e X-Drive Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY iTrader: (74)	i use the meguiars endurance gel as well...its purple and stored in a clear bottle. That stuff is really amazing, it flings a little bit but it lasts very long and is extremely shiny.
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dlwhite First Lieutenant 31 Rep 324 Posts Drives: Sparkling Graphite 2007 335xi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335xi [0.00]	Don't Use Mop and Glo! I tried mop and glo once. ONCE! I looked sharp until I drove the car. My tires looked like they had leprosy. __________________ 1987 Black on Black Mitsubishi Starion ESiR 2007 Sparkling Graphite 335xi
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ducati955 Lieutenant Colonel 90 Rep 1,717 Posts Drives: lifted tacoma on 38's & ducati Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: long island ny iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [10.00]	aerospace 303 is all youn need!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ car totaled out !!AW335i, oem aero lip, m3 csl rims, oem m3 sides, vorst csl carbon trunk, tinted, lowered on H&R sport, AR DP's, Bastauck dual exhaust, BMS intake, etc NEW RIDE white GTR!
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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	As George mentioned the #1 reason dressings sling is that they are put on a dirty tire. Tires sometimes look clean, and aren't. Spray them with some all purpose cleaner then give them a good scrub with a brush, then let them dry completely before applying any dressing. I use the same stuff George mentioned, poorboys bold 'n bright; never had sling as a problem and it's reasonably glossy; and you can apply many coats for more gloss. You can see thousands of pics of it in use on my site.
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CnoteMD Commander in Chief 37 Rep 1,034 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 535i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M5 [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	I've found that the issue with tire dressing "sling" is often related to the amount being used. As someone in this thread mentioned, it is impossible to get a high gloss on the tires without sling. I only apply tire dressing after the tires have been throroughly cleaned and dried. Then I apply only a small amount of tire dressing to my tires (Meguires Endurance). Similar to my waxing technique, less is more. The sidewalls aren't shiny, but they no longer appear dull. I get no "sling" and the finish lasts until my next wash. __________________ 2008 BMW 535i Space Gray, Black Leather, Dark Bamboo Trim\| Sport Automatic with Paddles \| Sport Package 2008 BMW M5 (gone, but not forgotten) Space Gray, Silverstone Merino Leather, Madeira Walnut Wood Trim \| 7speed SMG \| All options Mods: Corsa Exhaust \| RPI Ram Air Intake \| H&R Sport Springs \| Rogue Engineering 12mm spacers
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turbojet3 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: C. FL. iTrader: (0)	I have tried them all. Dupont teflon tire shine is the only one I use now. It is dry to the touch, does not fling and it is water resistant. Also it doesn't attract dirt or turn the tire brown.
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10-23-2007, 09:39 PM	#22
mrtbmw New Member 0 Rep 16 Posts Drives: Awaiting = 07 328xi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (0)	Poorboys Bold N Bright is the best Never had a sling issue with it - my tires look great for weeks, it is easy to apply and nourishes the tire. Aero 303 is great too - but I use that on the inside mostly. Don't forget the Poorboy's wheel sealant as well on the rims, I just wipe of my rims each night and they look like new.
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