Vargas Turbo upgrades updated

Zebra99 · 09-20-2012, 08:23 PM

These are going to stir up some shit with business for Vishnu and RB's. The prices for stage 2 are awesome and if stage 3 can put down 550+whp without meth, for same price as RB's, you'll see a lot of guys getting these.

I need to replace my WG's (now) and likely turbos in a few years; so, I'd be looking at this for next year!!

Tax season baby

vereak82 · 09-20-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

These are going to stir up some shit with business for Vishnu and RB's. The prices for stage 2 are awesome and if stage 3 can put down 550+whp without meth, for same price as RB's, you'll see a lot of guys getting these.

I need to replace my WG's (now) and likely turbos in a few years; so, I'd be looking at this for next year!!

Tax season baby

The more competition The better! If Vargas comes out swinging and actually provide great results with these turbos they will hold a good nitch in the N54 upgraded turbo market for sure..

F335i · 09-20-2012, 09:01 PM

How about us N55? any love for the Black Sheep?

flinchy · 09-20-2012, 09:14 PM

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So is this just the OEM turbos upgraded?

stage 1 and 2 are. Stage 2 is comparable to the likes of RB turbos where the turbine is also upgraded and not just clipped. along with upgraded wg flapper/rod.

stage 3 are fully upgraded disco potatoes, if you will. they require new manifolds etc.

Why do people keep saying disco potato? Disco's are a very specific model aren't they?

boostd92 · 09-20-2012, 09:17 PM

Yes, a Disco Potato is specifically a GT2860RS.

I had one on my 92 MR2 and it was a torque monster on 2.0L's... made ~350whp which was good enough for 11's on that car.

Two of them might be a bit laggy for a 3.0L, but certainly 600whp+

Ænema · 09-20-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

These are going to stir up some shit with business for Vishnu and RB's. The prices for stage 2 are awesome and if stage 3 can put down 550+whp without meth, for same price as RB's, you'll see a lot of guys getting these.

I need to replace my WG's (now) and likely turbos in a few years; so, I'd be looking at this for next year!!

Tax season baby

With competition comes progress and innovation.

Evil///M · 09-21-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave W.

I think he said they're just installing the first prototype Stage 1 on the shop car this week.

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I did also on BB I'm sure the details and cost and such is on hold until testing is complete.

I just asked if he still needed beta testers.

mister_jp · 09-26-2012, 01:23 PM

so do we have a dyno ?

dicostal · 09-26-2012, 01:31 PM

With the stage III wont you need to upgrade internals as well?
Also would the stage III be a straight bolt on?

robc1976 · 09-26-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

These are going to stir up some shit with business for Vishnu and RB's. The prices for stage 2 are awesome and if stage 3 can put down 550+whp without meth, for same price as RB's, you'll see a lot of guys getting these.

I need to replace my WG's (now) and likely turbos in a few years; so, I'd be looking at this for next year!!

Tax season baby

would need solid proof, would also need to know if these are made as good, would need to know if they will last as long. I want to see 550 Hp without meth on a Dyno, some logs perhaps. I am going with a proven product on the track, on Dyno ect. I emailed the makers of these turbos for info and didn't even get a response back......Rob beck called me and answered my questions, to me that speaks volume especially if you have a problem with a turbo or something. I am not trying to rain on your perade or anything....I hope you enjoy those and get long life out of them!

ChuckD05 · 09-26-2012, 01:40 PM

I doubt stage 3 will be the same price as stage 3's...

And nothing against Rob AT ALL because he is a pioneer who explorered territory long before anyone else on THIS platform but the Vargas company has way more resources and experience

-Z- · 09-27-2012, 01:29 PM

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UltimateDrive · 09-27-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by robc1976

would need solid proof, would also need to know if these are made as good, would need to know if they will last as long. I want to see 550 Hp without meth on a Dyno, some logs perhaps. I am going with a proven product on the track, on Dyno ect. I emailed the makers of these turbos for info and didn't even get a response back......Rob beck called me and answered my questions, to me that speaks volume especially if you have a problem with a turbo or something. I am not trying to rain on your perade or anything....I hope you enjoy those and get long life out of them!

Rob is very prompt to respond and does provide great information. I have a set on order with Rob Beck and patiently waiting until go live. I am very courious to see what these new turbos will put out.

firechicken99 · 09-27-2012, 03:06 PM

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biglare · 09-27-2012, 03:53 PM

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Dmacc · 09-27-2012, 04:00 PM

I think he still needs a tester for stage 3

sparoz · 09-27-2012, 04:02 PM

How quickly does stage 2 spool up compare to stock?

SneakyDeeky · 09-27-2012, 06:14 PM

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jpsimon · 09-27-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sparoz

How quickly does stage 2 spool up compare to stock?

shouldn't be much slower at all

bigdnno98 · 09-27-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

These are going to stir up some shit with business for Vishnu and RB's. The prices for stage 2 are awesome and if stage 3 can put down 550+whp without meth, for same price as RB's, you'll see a lot of guys getting these.

I need to replace my WG's (now) and likely turbos in a few years; so, I'd be looking at this for next year!!

Tax season baby

uhm, stage 3 is gonna cost more than the current ST kit. the turbos retail for over $1500 each. at least 1k each mani. probably custom down pipes etc. I'm guessing at least $7k.

Zebra99 · 09-27-2012, 08:54 PM

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uhm, stage 3 is gonna cost more than the current ST kit. the turbos retail for over $1500 each. at least 1k each mani. probably custom down pipes etc. I'm guessing at least $7k.

When all is said and done, if this can be sold for $5-6k with all necessary components, I'd say that's a good deal.
I mean....hell, we're talking 600-900hp without meth, at least 600whp to wheels, that's an awesome DD!!

We'll see after some dynos and real world #'s.

bigdnno98 · 09-27-2012, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

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Originally Posted by bigdnno98

uhm, stage 3 is gonna cost more than the current ST kit. the turbos retail for over $1500 each. at least 1k each mani. probably custom down pipes etc. I'm guessing at least $7k.

When all is said and done, if this can be sold for $5-6k with all necessary components, I'd say that's a good deal.
I mean....hell, we're talking 600-900hp without meth, at least 600whp to wheels, that's an awesome DD!!

We'll see after some dynos and real world #'s.

5-6k would be be a really good deal. ST sales would suffer greatly I would think.

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