Some Chinese would do anything for money or an Ipad

NYCGP · 06-03-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Freakazoid

Copyright laws in China are very very loose, you'll see tons of counterfeit cars, etc running around there

loose?

Lol.. there aren't any. They make fake EVERYTHING. Now this includes pharmaceuticals, surgical supplies, PACEMAKERS... they are the scum of the earth... no offense to any Chinese people on this forum.. But you're people are putting Millions of lives in jeopardy because they just don't give a fuck. It's not like we are talking about a fake pair of Jordans.

gonzo · 06-03-2011, 07:51 AM

^ Total agreement.

Not all Chinese of course but what they do is just disgusting.

It's a lot like cheating. Can't stand cheaters. In fact they suck.

FStop7 · 06-03-2011, 07:53 AM

you shouldn't buy a pacemaker from a stall on canal street

NYCGP · 06-03-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FStop7

you shouldn't buy a pacemaker from a stall on canal street

It's not the US that you have to worry about. It is the rest of the world that doesn't have the FDA looking out for them. There are extremely lax regulations and a lot of bribing.

Developing countries say the same thing a low income person does when they see a box of fruity loops... "They're the same thing. I don't know why you pay all that extra money for the name brand." Well in this instance, it's not just a little flavor you are sacrificing.

FStop7 · 06-03-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCGP

It's not the US that you have to worry about. It is the rest of the world that doesn't have the FDA looking out for them. There are extremely lax regulations and a lot of bribing.

Developing countries say the same thing a low income person does when they see a box of fruity loops... "They're the same thing. I don't know why you pay all that extra money for the name brand." Well in this instance, it's not just a little flavor you are sacrificing.

my company just won a judgement over this very thing, btw

http://www.seattlepi.com/business/ar...se-1352682.php

gun6slinger9 · 06-03-2011, 10:26 AM

The chinese have also found a away to make money off of fake eggs and fake soy sauce. Amazing thing is that until you crack open the egg you cant tell it's fake. If they actually used their intelligence and cunning for good rather than making all this fake crap they could actually be a benefit to the rest of the world rather than themselves.

M3Bahn · 06-03-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gun6slinger9

The chinese have also found a away to make money off of fake eggs and fake soy sauce. Amazing thing is that until you crack open the egg you cant tell it's fake. If they actually used their intelligence and cunning for good rather than making all this fake crap they could actually be a benefit to the rest of the world rather than themselves.

That was my biggest worry when I was over there buying fake food products.

They are super capitalists and will do anything to make and or increase profit.

SchlauCow · 06-03-2011, 11:46 AM

Chinese will continue to utilize trade secrets as weaponry against the U.S. -- especially when it comes to digital network technologies. Just research Huawei-Symantec... The Chinese are one of our biggest threats, and I'm hoping their hacker sweatshops turn against them. Also, as a rule of thumb, I don't trust any Chinese student or official who comes to the U.S., especially when they're here for tech/defense conferences. /rant

stylinexpat · 06-03-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCGP

loose?

Lol.. there aren't any. They make fake EVERYTHING. Now this includes pharmaceuticals, surgical supplies, PACEMAKERS... they are the scum of the earth... no offense to any Chinese people on this forum.. But you're people are putting Millions of lives in jeopardy because they just don't give a fuck. It's not like we are talking about a fake pair of Jordans.

I have lived in Asia for 20 years now as an expat. Money is in their blood. They will gamble,copy,and do just about anything for money. My wife is Chinese as well so I know the locals quite well when it comes to money. Some people work to live while others live to work.

AngelinIsRich08 · 06-03-2011, 12:06 PM

What's an expat? And the kid could have just asked his friend to steal one from the factory he works at that makes them. Haha.

SchlauCow · 06-03-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelinIsRich08

What's an expat? And the kid could have just asked his friend to steal one from the factory he works at that makes them. Haha.

An expatriate is someone who lives in another country other than from where he/she is originally from. E.g. If I live in China, I'm an American expat.

infinitekidM2C · 06-03-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SchlauCow

An expatriate is someone who lives in another country other than from where he/she is originally from. E.g. If I live in China, I'm an American expat.

u traitor

gun6slinger9 · 06-03-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SchlauCow

Chinese will continue to utilize trade secrets as weaponry against the U.S. -- especially when it comes to digital network technologies. Just research Huawei-Symantec... The Chinese are one of our biggest threats, and I'm hoping their hacker sweatshops turn against them. Also, as a rule of thumb, I don't trust any Chinese student or official who comes to the U.S., especially when they're here for tech/defense conferences. /rant

All nationalities have hackers, the reason you hear more about the Chinese is because they tend to be sloppy as they are relatively new to this and get caught/leave traces of their work.

Kroy · 06-03-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kensta335

Sold his kidney for $3400 only? Thought kidneys are worth at least $10k. He got ripped off.

broker fees

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Originally Posted by NYCGP

It's not the US that you have to worry about. It is the rest of the world that doesn't have the FDA looking out for them. There are extremely lax regulations and a lot of bribing.

Developing countries say the same thing a low income person does when they see a box of fruity loops... "They're the same thing. I don't know why you pay all that extra money for the name brand." Well in this instance, it's not just a little flavor you are sacrificing.

exasperating how they just don't understand.

i guess this is what separates a developed country from developing country.

stylinexpat · 06-03-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gun6slinger9

All nationalities have hackers, the reason you hear more about the Chinese is because they tend to be sloppy as they are relatively new to this and get caught/leave traces of their work.

Very true. The US,Israel and Russia are among those on top at hacking. The Chinese are new to this so they are a bit sloppy. Give them some time and they will get much better at hacking. It is just like counterfeiting products to where when they first started the difference was quite obvious but now many can hardly tell the difference.

AngelinIsRich08 · 06-03-2011, 01:08 PM

Aren't the Chinese still communist? I know they're pseudo-capitalist but in general they aren't.

infinitekidM2C · 06-03-2011, 01:13 PM

They are really capitalist but with a very controlling central government re social and political issues...that's my take

MediaArtist · 06-03-2011, 02:01 PM

I don't want to jump on the bash-china-bandwagon, but their lack of respect towards IP is disgusting. Never ever send source code or even a partial build to a chinese company asking for a "demo" of your product. It will be decompiled and you will have given 2 years worth of work to someone for free.

M3Bahn · 06-03-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

They are really capitalist but with a very controlling central government re social and political issues...that's my take

Yeah exactly and way more efficient than our system.

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gun6slinger9 Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 268 Posts Drives: 428xi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Calgary Canada iTrader: (0)	The chinese have also found a away to make money off of fake eggs and fake soy sauce. Amazing thing is that until you crack open the egg you cant tell it's fake. If they actually used their intelligence and cunning for good rather than making all this fake crap they could actually be a benefit to the rest of the world rather than themselves.
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AngelinIsRich08 Banned 61 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '11 X5M, '09 CTS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO iTrader: (0)	Aren't the Chinese still communist? I know they're pseudo-capitalist but in general they aren't.
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