[squeezebm]

OH my god, we're all gonna die

i think more damage would have been caused by St Carlots driving

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

Carlos, I can understand your annoyance but are you genuinely worried or just annoyed ? I can't tell.

You don't need to worry is what we are trying to say. Be annoyed, yes but do not fear.

For fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.....

Can be fixed, the car can. But your emotions, revealed they are. See though you, we do

[Evil Diesel]

I really wouldn't worry.

I have been running my 330 for the last year on a intermittent yellow oil light. Dump the odd litre in now and again and thrash the arse out of it.

Then again, it will be the leasing companies problem as of next Friday ....

I did notice though that the low oil light generally only comes on after the ignition is turned off.

[mjh93sa]

Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

There is a sensor Matt. Haven't you read the manual yet?!

It's on my desk . I did a search for oil level but only got the bit about dipstick for diesel and electronic measuring for petrol. Also, nothing in there that seems to give a complete list of check control messages.

Originally Posted by dxb335d

thats my point, it was below the minimum and i drove up a steep hill, so for like a minute or so i could have had no oil pressure and severly reduced the life expectancy of the engine components and turbos

If it had dropped to a dangerous level then the check control bit between the two dials would have been in your face with a warning.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

so still got driven 15 miles up some steep gradients with oil below the minimum

Carlos .. please stop going on about your bloody oil level. It's like you are obsessed or something.

If it was 'below the minimum then a warning light would have activated on the dash. I've seen it on my own car.

Your car CANNOT have been damaged and I suggest that you stop being such a bleedin drama queen.

The oil level CANNOT be fluctuating in your car and the dipstick CANNOT be faulty.

Oil can be burned or leak out, but it can't sneak back in again can it?

Your disptick doesn't fluctuate in length either .. do you think it becomes longer when you are exited??

The engines on the e90's are set up such that the oil moves around a fair old bit while driving. That's why you are supposed to check the level on a warm engine which has stood still for a few minutes so that the oil can settle.

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Your disptick doesn't fluctuate in length either .. do you think it becomes longer when you are excited??

[Z4 Beemer]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

The oil level CANNOT be fluctuating in your car and the dipstick CANNOT be faulty.

Oil can be burned or leak out, but it can't sneak back in again can it?

Your disptick doesn't fluctuate in length either .. do you think it becomes longer when you are exited??

Carlos <-- NFS

[330cdsport]

Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

Carlos it DOES have a light - RTFM or STFU!!!!!
!

That is mad/spooky - I was able to exactly read the long form of what was written in the abbreviations above without thinking about it!! I dont think I have seen those shortcuts before either.

It must just have been in my head also silver.

[Mike UK]

Sleep on it till tom, when you are calmer, and write a formal letter or go and complain to the general manager (be polite but firm).

If you're that worried about engine ask if they will give you an extended 1 year warranty because of their mistake.

If you get no response complain to BMW GB.

£400 for a first service, that is atrocious!!! Were they using Formula1 oil?

[dxb335d]

Right guys, i think the re-map will be thrown out the window now, because if this has caused damage and then it goes (the turbos etc) they will thru warranty out window because of the re-map, even tho it was because some numpty didnt fill the car with enough oil


400 quid yes for brake pads too, rear ones and sensors.


i will take many pics over the next month of the crazy oil level that i have witnessed before

St Carlos the dipstick extending War Lord

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Right guys, i think the re-map will be thrown out the window now, because if this has caused damage and then it goes (the turbos etc) they will thru warranty out window because of the re-map, even tho it was because some numpty didnt fill the car with enough oil:rolleyes

Carlos .. we know a few things in this situation:

1. Your oil level was not below the minimum

Your car is fitted with a warning light which would have advised you of this and also an audible alarm which makes a bloody great dinging noise if your oil level is too low. I suspect that even you would have noticed if these alarms activated.

2. You evidently have no idea how to check the oil level on your car and refuse to accept the simple, clear and concise instructions in the manual.

3. Your oil level is not fluctuating, because this is impossible

4. Your dispstick is not faulty because that would be impossible.

5. Your car has not been damaged, because it had plenty of oil in it when you drove it. Anything between the maximum and minimum is FINE and you evidently WERE NOT below the minimum.

Please stop making these insane deluded posts

[dxb335d]

Simon

STFU

i know how to check oil, i know how to rebuild an engine, gearbox, whatever

OK THEN mr MASTER technician came out and checked it and said it was very low, too low, and was below the minimum mark on the dipstick

[red355]

When my Boxster s went in a for a service they managed to spill oil & antifreeze in the rear boot area where the filler caps are located. I only found out when it went all over my Billingham canvas camera bag, which transfered it to the trouser I was wearing.

Was not HP at all, they where reluctant to pay for a new bag as it was the price of the service. Ended up getting Full valet plus a Becker 6 CD changer out of them for 1/2 price...which looking back was probably trade or less to them,

[northernmonkey]

carlos I would get BMW to check the oil level warning system is working OK. I know on my E60 that when the electronic dipstick in idrive got within one green bar of minimum i would start to see the yellow oil level low warning light. this basically (because it was yellow and not red) was telling me to "top up" the level.

if the technician states your level is below minimum and no warning light came on (yellow) this is v.odd or maybe it was just "enuff" not to trigger the warning.

either way, if no warning was issued i would say you have nothing at all to worry about just enjoy the car! (once your oil is showing back at just under maximum)

happy motoring!!

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

That is mad/spooky - I was able to exactly read the long form of what was written in the abbreviations above without thinking about it!! I dont think I have seen those shortcuts before either.

It must just have been in my head also silver.

Spooky, that was the same for me!

[Dave_3]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

i know how to rebuild an engine, gearbox, whatever

Name one engine you have actually rebuilt yourself Carl. Go on. Just one. That ran. I personally would run a mile from someone who "reconditions" engines and gearboxes but gets flummoxed reading the oil level

You still haven't read the E92 hand book yet either, have you ? It is obvious - and bloody tedious. How many patient replies have you received from those who have tried to help you, by relaying what the handbook CLEARLY says ? But you still don't comprehend. You are still arm waving.

No damage has been done. Not even a tiny wee bit. You're worrying about losing oil pressure/circulation which "could shorten the life of the turbo's and engine tenfold" because you drove up a wee hill (trip of 15 miles total) clearly illustrates you have never experienced oil starvation and know NOTHING WHATSOEVER about it. Expert engine rebuilder or not.

A dipstick (faulty or correct) showing below the mimimum will not effect the car after 15 miles - when it has for certain another 5/6 litres of nice shiney new oil in it. The fact the tech put in 1.5 litres proves it WAS NOT EMPTY OR DANGEROUSLY LOW. Can you not understand that ??? Why can you not use your common sense and think it through, step by step.

Please, Please, Please - do yourself (and us) a BIG, BIG favour .... and .... calm down, take a deep breath and ...

RTFM

[sound of weeping]

Failing that, buy a Haynes manual.

D.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Simon

STFU

i know how to check oil, i know how to rebuild an engine, gearbox, whatever

OK THEN mr MASTER technician came out and checked it and said it was very low, too low, and was below the minimum mark on the dipstick

Carlos - there is absolutely no way that the oil level in your car was low enough to damage it.

You obviously don't know how to check your oil because you insist on doing it every possible way other than the correct one as described in the manual.

If the oil level was below the minimum you would have had flashing lights and bonging sounds.

You didn't and it wasn't so stop fretting about nothing ..

[roofer]

You are being a bit of a drama Queen here.

Indeed

The sump is baffled, there is a multitude of warnings, and i'm pretty sure that when no pressure is detected, power is cut to the engine.

It sounds like they filled your engine, and did not allow for a new filter. On start up, the level has dropped, and they were to lazy to 'double dip'

Therefore, the dealer is shite, find another dealer.

Oh yes, putting a Metro engine back together, does not constitute 'building an engine', and i'm pretty sure you can't build a gearbox youngun

[dxb335d]

im fed up of the slagging off, FTM. You guys who have read it, and the dealer says check it five mins after a drive, i did that and it was below the minimum mark end of, the technician agreed!

[M3-FAST]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

im fed up of the slagging off, FTM.

Carlos - you ask for it.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by redE93cab

Carlos - you ask for it.

not once

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

im fed up of the slagging off, FTM. You guys who have read it, and the dealer says check it five mins after a drive, i did that and it was below the minimum mark end of, the technician agreed!

If the oil level was low enough to damage your engine you would have seen bright flashing lights on the dashboard and your car would have made loud 'bonging' noises.

I've got no doubt that the car needed some oil, but as we have patiently tried to explain it was not so low that it would cause damage.

The difference between max and min is 1 litre. I know this because on the petrol engined cars, when the electronic dipstick reads that the level is below the min the manual instructs you to add 1 litre and the reading then registers max.

If the technician put 1.5 litres of oil in then the oil level would have been below the minimum on the dipstick, by 0.5 litres. However, if the engine had been at any risk at all then you would have seen and heard warnings from the check control system.

Originally Posted by redE93cab

Carlos - you ask for it.

You are absolutely right.

Originally Posted by dxb335d

not once

Yes you do - over and over again !