[JDrago1926]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Downgraded?
You mean "profited"

cheers man!

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by JDrago1926

Spoke to the person I bought my Cobb off of who I trust and the Tablet does similar to what the Cobb does and it's cheaper. I can get an FMIC quicker and honestly the tune isn't my biggest concern, my concern is building a more stable car, the tune is something to mess around with.

Yes I know what an open source tune is. Do I need it... no? Do I think it could be a good option? Yes... tons of people will be able to self tune and release maps... something Cobb cannot do and that to me makes me want to make the move. JB4 was a quick rush and I wouldn't even consider it again. If this Tablet does basically what Cobb does and is cheaper and I can make some money off my Cobb being as I got it at a great price, why not?

It sounded like you had your head wrapped around your logic until you said the tune isn't the biggest concern.

The tune is and will always be the most important aspect of your car...

Don't get me wrong this tune theoretically will be good. (THEORETICALLY).

Good luck with whatever route you choose.

[E90Company]

Originally Posted by JDrago1926

Spoke to the person I bought my Cobb off of who I trust and the Tablet does similar to what the Cobb does and it's cheaper. I can get an FMIC quicker and honestly the tune isn't my biggest concern, my concern is building a more stable car, the tune is something to mess around with.

Yes I know what an open source tune is. Do I need it... no? Do I think it could be a good option? Yes... tons of people will be able to self tune and release maps... something Cobb cannot do and that to me makes me want to make the move. JB4 was a quick rush and I wouldn't even consider it again. If this Tablet does basically what Cobb does and is cheaper and I can make some money off my Cobb being as I got it at a great price, why not?

A quality tune is the single most important thing. You know that, right? Listen to Jeff.

[JDrago1926]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

It sounded like you had your head wrapped around your logic until you said the tune isn't the biggest concern.

The tune is and will always be the most important aspect of your car...

Don't get me wrong this tune theoretically will be good. (THEORETICALLY).

Good luck with whatever route you choose.

I agree as well but, what I meant by that was that the tune isn't the most important thing to me, I am willing to try this cheap solution out, if it doesn't work I can always go back to a Cobb at anytime! When I said not important I meant which brand I'm using... I'm willing to do some testing/logging and seeing how it goes.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by E90Company

A quality tune is the single most important thing. You know that, right? Listen to Jeff.

I agree that the tune is the most important thing. Now let's go back to keeping this on topic.

[JDrago1926]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I agree that the tune is the most important thing. Now let's go back to keeping this on topic.

Either way I'm going with the Tablet, I just sold my Cobb for $675. If the tablet has issues and isn't working well I will switch back to a Cobb.

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by E90Company

A quality tune is the single most important thing. You know that, right? Listen to Jeff.

I believe that's why he sold his Cobb. Cobb maps are nothing special. They are just ok.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Sell it while you can. Get this and pocket $200 in the process. Take the profit and buy a netbook The used value of your AP is only going to go down from here.

Just saw your add in the classifieds

You are an epic piece of work.

[JDrago1926]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

You are an epic piece of work.

LOL!

[Ferruccio]

Now, this is eye-opening. I would love to be able to use this to load/unload ECU flashes without having to mail it somewhere to have it done. This seems like a nice all-in-one diagnostic tool.

[3000GT MR]

Not sure how the dme process relay signals. But would it be possible to active certain relays for diagnostics like LPFP, fans (with variable speeds) , water pump, etc with the ignition on but not running. This has been useful in other platforms esp as cars are aging. I'm speaking for future updates not as is right now

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The company you buy the product from is responsible for support. But this is a tuning tool so support really just distills down to repairing shipping damage, tracking numbers, assistance with user software, help with general usage, etc,. This product does not come with a tuning assistance other than providing solid OTS maps. For custom tuning, you will either need to do it yourself or preferably go to a tuner. The Rombinhood team will be posting tutorials and how-tos over the course of the next few weeks on this forum which should be a good reference guide for people who want to use the more advanced features. But for those who just want to tune their car, the whole job isn't much more than plugging it in to the DME, then plugging it into a laptop, then back into the DME again. No tuning knowledge necessary. Even all the software/firmware updates are done automatically upon detection of wifi. Very novice friendly.

Those who aren't novices will have even more fun with it. You are basically getting a portable single-car version of an non-encrypted, user mappable, flashing device that would costs several thousand dollars. Don't let the Cobb users in this thread convince you otherwise as they are in a state of temporary denial judging Give them time though.. they will come around.

Shiv

Edit. looks like the trolling posts have been delete. Thanks mods

Thanks. So who would I contact if I had issues with the OTS tune? Vinshu or Ronbinhoods group?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Not sure how the dme process relay signals. But would it be possible to active certain relays for diagnostics like LPFP, fans (with variable speeds) , water pump, etc with the ignition on but not running. This has been useful in other platforms esp as cars are aging. I'm speaking for future updates not as is right now

The OpenFlash Tablet already has the ability to activate fans and water pump. I'm sure Rombinhood can add more if there is a demand for it.

[OrangeCrush]

How is everyone profiting from selling their Cobbs? Lol...are they selling them for more than what they paid new? If the COBB appreciates then they are doing something right! No?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Thanks. So who would I contact if I had issues with the OTS tune? Vinshu or Ronbinhoods group?

For our tunes, we will start an official thread that can help people dial in there tunes. At this price, we cannot offer unlimited tuning support simply because not all cars are the same due to hardware changes, neglect, conditions, etc,. We do want to encourage going to actual tuners to get tuned. E-tunes will never work as well as a proper dyno tune. But our OTS maps, like other OTS maps will be stable and functional. They will leave room on the table for improvements through custom tuning. Either by yourself (if knowledgeable or willing to learn) or by an experienced tuner. But there are enough people on this forum who have been custom tuning their flashes to provide insight when needed. Ultimately, this a tool. It will work at least as well, out of the box, as any other similar tool. But unlimited tuning support isn't feasible.

Other tuners who may offer maps (and support) may have a similar or different policy.

[3000GT MR]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The OpenFlash Tablet already has the ability to activate fans and water pump. I'm sure Rombinhood can add more if there is a demand for it.

Ok awesome. I saw that page in the video but i thought it was just live data on its current state

[blisstik]

How long does it take to swap maps once you've flashed for the first time?

[biz77]

Will a 30 day satisfaction guarantee be offered like other tuning options?

[themyst]

Originally Posted by blisstik

How long does it take to swap maps once you've flashed for the first time?

the OP says 12 minutes.

[blisstik]

Originally Posted by themyst

the OP says 12 minutes.

That's pretty slow if you have to swap pump to E85 blends.

[Ænema]

Originally Posted by Ænema

1-What tables will be available that are not available in ATR?
2-What are the aforementioned super cool features?

Not trolling here, I honestly want to know.

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

How is everyone profiting from selling their Cobbs? Lol...are they selling them for more than what they paid new? If the COBB appreciates then they are doing something right! No?

You bough a device at 700 but a similar device is introduced at lower price and the value of the both devices will be 400. Some people do not know about the release and are still willing to pay 600. You can sell at 200 of profit compared to the real value assuming the complete information. A typical case of asymmetric information. The value is a continuous variable. Sorry for the OT