Made the switch from Procede V5 to JB4 G5 ISO with dyno..

enrita · 11-13-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

I am certainly not saying that anyone experiencing misfires with a procede should switch to JB4 however this is what fixed my problem.

I was so frustrated that it wasn't running right I actually considered selling the car.

thats why is good to test another tune. if it misfires on both than you know for sure you have an hardware issue somewhere. these engines are so freaken sensitive to misfires...

E90Company · 11-13-2012, 02:58 PM

Nice numbers! It seems like alot of people have been moving from other tunes to the G5 lately with great success. I need to upgrade my G4

slostjoe · 11-13-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

I am certainly not saying that anyone experiencing misfires with a procede should switch to JB4 however this is what fixed my problem.

I was so frustrated that it wasn't running right I actually considered selling the car.

thats why is good to test another tune. if it misfires on both than you know for sure you have an hardware issue somewhere. these engines are so freaken sensitive to misfires...

I agree.

slostjoe · 11-13-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by E90Company

Nice numbers! It seems like alot of people have been moving from other tunes to the G5 lately with great success. I need to upgrade my G4

You absolutely must. The G5 ISO is worlds different even on a stock n54. I just installed this on a buddy auto awd 335i I can't believe it going from the g5 to the g5 ISO is a major difference also.

sickem · 11-13-2012, 04:52 PM

considering the same switch myself. my car has never really run great on the procede and I'm maxing out fuel trims up and down and it requires a lot of tweaking to get it right it seems...

slostjoe · 11-13-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sickem

considering the same switch myself. my car has never really run great on the procede and I'm maxing out fuel trims up and down and it requires a lot of tweaking to get it right it seems...

It's not like there is any sacrifice to make the switch in my eyes, cheaper and more power in most cases also the little things like the steering controls gauge sweep all that jazz.

Presidio335xi · 11-13-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

I did not have the procede flash

This is the reason in power difference. It's a very simple explanation.

Customer service is another issue in and of itself.

slostjoe · 11-13-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Presidio335xi

This is the reason in power difference. It's a very simple explanation.

Customer service is another issue in and of itself.

I guess i'm misunderstanding what you are saying....

nafoo · 11-13-2012, 06:09 PM

Is it possible the additional fueling provided by the COBB flash may have resolved some fueling issues that may have caused the misfires?

But then, I don't understand why Vishnu didn't just suggest a Procede flash. Who knows. We're all just speculating.

All that matters is that your car is making insane power now!

rdeterman · 11-13-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nafoo

Is it possible the additional fueling provided by the COBB flash may have resolved some fueling issues that may have caused the misfires?

But then, I don't understand why Vishnu didn't just suggest a Procede flash. Who knows. We're all just speculating.

All that matters is that your car is making insane power now!

i was thinking this also..

Bimmer305 · 11-13-2012, 07:01 PM

Oh so that explains why I won every race against the others 335i running Procede at the track.

And I thought it was because of my driving skills

rdeterman · 11-13-2012, 07:09 PM

JB4 FTW

Presidio335xi · 11-13-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

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Originally Posted by Presidio335xi

This is the reason in power difference. It's a very simple explanation.

Customer service is another issue in and of itself.

I guess i'm misunderstanding what you are saying....

Without a fueling reflash you will not take advantage of running E85. That is why the jb5 and Cobb flash has so much more power. That also probably accounts for everything else.

If your customer service experience was bad than that is a reason to switch.

Eric335 · 11-13-2012, 07:46 PM

Damn. Definitely makes me reconsider, and i totally understand what you mean as far as customer service goes. Not sure if they are too busy, but i would handle the CS differently if i was fortunate enough to be an owner.

slostjoe · 11-13-2012, 08:05 PM

No I'm saying these fueling issues were fixed long before I did the Cobb flash. I did that for the 100% e85 And timing advance. I was content with the setup but I was beyond tired of going to 2 gas stations every time I got gas.

I wouldn't go back to the procede if it were free but that's just my 2c!

slostjoe · 11-13-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Presidio335xi

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

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Originally Posted by Presidio335xi

This is the reason in power difference. It's a very simple explanation.

Customer service is another issue in and of itself.

I guess i'm misunderstanding what you are saying....

Without a fueling reflash you will not take advantage of running E85. That is why the jb5 and Cobb flash has so much more power. That also probably accounts for everything else.

If your customer service experience was bad than that is a reason to switch.

False.

roberts5831 · 11-13-2012, 08:11 PM

so let me get this straight... shiv and terry both personally tuned ur cars? or did u just install the procede and after problems switch to terry and he worked on ur car at the dyno?

AK 335i · 11-13-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by roberts5831

so let me get this straight... shiv and terry both personally tuned ur cars? or did u just install the procede and after problems switch to terry and he worked on ur car at the dyno?

OP:

spool twice · 11-13-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

False.

+1, I don't understand where all of this misconception of E85 mixing came from and why it's now marketed as something only scientists can apparently measure

I've been running it behind scenes since January running 17.5 psi with E50/93 octane and methanol, before any official release of "E85 tunes"

AK 335i · 11-13-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spool twice

+1, I don't understand where all of this misconception of E85 mixing came from and why it's now marketed as something only scientists can apparently measure

I've been running it behind scenes since January running 17.5 psi with E50/93 octane and methanol, before any official release of "E85 tunes"

yup.. its not that hard to put in your mix and if you have any doubts do a log.

Besides doing logs it beneficial to just winging it and letting the vishnu or cobb flash auto tune it. At least you will KNOW everything is in check by logging instead of assuming. Even when i end up doing the cobb flash or if i had the vishnu flex sensor for that matter, i would log log log. I like to listen to my car

thats why we get along so well

bmw335idizzle · 11-13-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

Ok, so I will not get into all the details as to why I switched other than a few very important factors, Customer Service....Terry has been nothing short of amazing in getting my car to the point at which it is now. Second of all I couldn't get my car to run correctly on the Procede and Vishnu kept blaming Injectors, Spark plus etc to why my car wasnt making power.

So here are the dyno runs- E92 335i 6mt

Procede V5 Rev 3, 93oct/e85, 50/50, 3" DP's DCI's and an FMIC the car made 385.11Whp and 412.43Wtq at 53* temps.

JB4 G5 ISO 93/e85 50/50 Mix, 3" DP's DCI's and an FMIC the car made a best of 441.59whp and 483.93wtq this was with the clutch slipping very badly. So the highest full pull I was able to make was 433.59whp and 474.93wtq this was 64* temps.

So I am very happy with this switch and the car is so much faster on the street! I have also added the BMS/Cobb backend flash, 100% E85 and NLS 2 Step it is amazing what this car feels like on a 30* night and full throttle shifting.

I just ordered a clutch and will be hitting the dyno once again. I tried scanning the dyno sheets and can't get them to upload correctly will try again when I get home.

Which map are you running on?

bmw335idizzle · 11-13-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sickem

considering the same switch myself. my car has never really run great on the procede and I'm maxing out fuel trims up and down and it requires a lot of tweaking to get it right it seems...

Did you ever think of adding the flex fuel kit

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E90Company Major General 194 Rep 6,136 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	Nice numbers! It seems like alot of people have been moving from other tunes to the G5 lately with great success. I need to upgrade my G4
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sickem Freude am fahren 71 Rep 1,968 Posts Drives: E90 N54 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Doylestown, PA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i E90 [6.50]	considering the same switch myself. my car has never really run great on the procede and I'm maxing out fuel trims up and down and it requires a lot of tweaking to get it right it seems... __________________ Cobb E40 PROtune by Jake@PTF/RR catless DPs/aFe DCI/ETS 5" FMIC/ER CP/Forge DVs/Alpina B3 TCU flash/BMW Perf. Exhaust./BMW Performance Style 313s/M-Tech Rear
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nafoo Major 46 Rep 1,145 Posts Drives: Boosted Bimmer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Is it possible the additional fueling provided by the COBB flash may have resolved some fueling issues that may have caused the misfires? But then, I don't understand why Vishnu didn't just suggest a Procede flash. Who knows. We're all just speculating. All that matters is that your car is making insane power now!
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slostjoe NEWBICON 17 Rep 304 Posts Drives: E92 335is Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Springfield, MO iTrader: (6)	No I'm saying these fueling issues were fixed long before I did the Cobb flash. I did that for the 100% e85 And timing advance. I was content with the setup but I was beyond tired of going to 2 gas stations every time I got gas. I wouldn't go back to the procede if it were free but that's just my 2c! __________________ 2013 Race Red GT500 708whp www.cmsmotorsports.com
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roberts5831 thats what she said... 23 Rep 167 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	so let me get this straight... shiv and terry both personally tuned ur cars? or did u just install the procede and after problems switch to terry and he worked on ur car at the dyno? __________________ 2008 335i Alpine White // 15% tint all around // PROcede Rev 3, 11-1 maps // Vishnu DCI
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