Got speeding ticket in VT, need some advice.

jpsimon · 03-09-2009, 11:35 AM

So after all these years driving back/forth from Killington, VT I finally got a speeding ticket. I was definitely past due... so I didn't think to fight it. 88 in a 65, $220.

But on the ticket, he wrote my name as John... when clearly my name is Jonah. I wasn't planning on fighting it until I saw this. Think they might call the ticket faulty and throw it out?

I mean.. who's this John character?

Nick@aep · 03-09-2009, 11:37 AM

That kinda thing here is enough to drop a ticket a lot of times. FIGHT IT!

pawarrant · 03-09-2009, 12:03 PM

In Pennsylvania that mistake could be easily fixed by the officer amending the citation at the hearing. Bringing it up as a reason for the citation to be thrown out would probably just make you look like a dick. You are much better off asking for a hearing, telling the judge how it was your first offense, you realize what you did was wrong, apologize, tell the judge the officer was polite and courteous, and ask for the charge to be reduced to a violation which carries a minimum fine and/or no points. Again, this is for PA where I used to be a cop. I'm sure the rules of criminal procedure for amending citations are similar in VT, but you should check.

lyjw88 · 03-09-2009, 02:40 PM

my gf also got a speeding ticket driving to Killington two weeks ago.
83 mph in a 65 zone, 250 bucks.

cyphr · 03-09-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pawarrant

In Pennsylvania that mistake could be easily fixed by the officer amending the citation at the hearing. Bringing it up as a reason for the citation to be thrown out would probably just make you look like a dick. You are much better off asking for a hearing, telling the judge how it was your first offense, you realize what you did was wrong, apologize, tell the judge the officer was polite and courteous, and ask for the charge to be reduced to a violation which carries a minimum fine and/or no points. Again, this is for PA where I used to be a cop. I'm sure the rules of criminal procedure for amending citations are similar in VT, but you should check.

Good advice. Here in MA, a typo in the name isn't grounds to have the ticket thrown out. However, I would suggest fighting it. Fines can usually be reduced if you have a clean history. You might have some leverage as far is an improper note on how your speed was measured (probably laser) but then again, MA tends to lean on the side of not being lenient towards speeding. VT might be different.

winnibago · 03-09-2009, 09:00 PM

Talk about profiling! - VT 5-0 loves:
1) out of state license plates
2) european cars
3) ski racks on top
4) "colored folk"

JP, having the wrong first name won't get you off the hook, but having a wrong drivers license # or license plate # might... I've been pulled over a few times in VT, and have never been issued a "warning". One time, we were in a Skimarket BUS, doing 25 in a 20, and the cop pulled the bus over in the center of town, and made the entire bus wait for about 30 minutes, and eventually gave the bus driver a ticket for 5mph over.. The bus driver was so pissed off, he got on the PA system to tell us all he'd just been royally screwed by some "hill-billy cop". So much for trying to support Vermont Tourism..

I don't think the VT registry is tied into ours, so there was no insurance surcharge..

Mr. BMW · 03-09-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by winnibago

Talk about profiling! - VT 5-0 loves:
1) out of state license plates
2) european cars
3) ski racks on top
4) "colored folk"

JP, having the wrong first name won't get you off the hook, but having a wrong drivers license # or license plate # might... I've been pulled over a few times in VT, and have never been issued a "warning". One time, we were in a Skimarket BUS, doing 25 in a 20, and the cop pulled the bus over in the center of town, and made the entire bus wait for about 30 minutes, and eventually gave the bus driver a ticket for 5mph over.. The bus driver was so pissed off, he got on the PA system to tell us all he'd just been royally screwed by some "hill-billy cop". So much for trying to support Vermont Tourism..

I don't think the VT registry is tied into ours, so there was no insurance surcharge..

Yeah, this really pisses me off! You spend money in their state and they just wait for you to go over the speed limit and give you a ticket!
NH is also famous for this... I almost got one last year in NH. Driving through one of the towns, I was going probably 10 miles over the limit. The cop was parked in a strip mall. As I came up on him he flashed his headlights at me and I slowed down. I went by him and just a looked over and acknowledged that I was going too fast and he didn't come after me. I guess he was probably just sitting there having his coffee.

flukey · 03-09-2009, 10:02 PM

I got two speeding tickets in VT while I went to school in Albany, NY. VT does not report tickets to the DOT of out of state drivers nor the insurance company if you simply pay it.

I don't think you should worry about it, just pay it.

ska///235i · 03-09-2009, 10:15 PM

fight the ticket

VT is so countryside, cops have nothing else to do but give out tix and eat donuts

mroach · 03-11-2009, 12:10 PM

The highway in VT probably shouldn't even have a speed limit. It's offensive that the speed limit is so low. Last time I went to Montreal I was cruising at about 100 the whole way.

carrabassett786 · 03-11-2009, 06:51 PM

+1 that VT should NOT have speed limits. If it hasn't changed in the last 3 years, my family members in MA have gotten tickets in NH and it doesn't show up. MA doesn't share info.

I think that description applies to all cops. I had to get the most similar tag to SC when I went down for school and get a custom one for the numbers to look like theirs. Since then, I haven't been asked "What are you doing down here?" once. It was also a good damn excuse to take off the front

Alarbus · 03-16-2009, 08:58 AM

They upped the amount they were patrolling on parts of I89 the last month or so, after they announced that five police cars had been hit this winter. If you pay it, it goes away. If you fight it, you're going to have to take time off and drive up to whatever town and argue with someone, likely more than once. Is $220 worth it?

I got a ticket in Charlestown NY once. Middle of nowhere between Saratoga and Amsterdam, NY. I was doing about 13 over, while going down a hill. I just paid it, I didn't see how driving out there and wasting time and money came out in my favor. It never got sent to VT DMV, so whatever. If it were in state, I'd probably fight it, but... eh.

Besides, I89 *should* have speed limits. That way you're not doing 100 when you hit the pothole/frost heave/frost dip. They're helping you save your rims!

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lyjw88 Major 221 Rep 1,414 Posts Drives: C63S & X3MC Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boston iTrader: (6)	my gf also got a speeding ticket driving to Killington two weeks ago. 83 mph in a 65 zone, 250 bucks.
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flukey Go big or go home! 52 Rep 948 Posts Drives: E90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Iowa iTrader: (9)	I got two speeding tickets in VT while I went to school in Albany, NY. VT does not report tickets to the DOT of out of state drivers nor the insurance company if you simply pay it. I don't think you should worry about it, just pay it. __________________
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carrabassett786 Lieutenant 13 Rep 508 Posts Drives: 11 328i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL iTrader: (0)	+1 that VT should NOT have speed limits. If it hasn't changed in the last 3 years, my family members in MA have gotten tickets in NH and it doesn't show up. MA doesn't share info. I think that description applies to all cops. I had to get the most similar tag to SC when I went down for school and get a custom one for the numbers to look like theirs. Since then, I haven't been asked "What are you doing down here?" once. It was also a good damn excuse to take off the front __________________ E90 328i Space Gray/Chestnut ZMP 2MF ZP2 ZV2 ZCV ZCW-washers HK SAT 3rd Pedal ED 2011.10.10 E90 325xi BSM/Terra ZSP ZPP ZCW Adaptive Xenons SAT 3rd pedal Gone E53 X5 3.0i Black Sapphire/Truffle ZPP ZCW ZRC Xenon Nav
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Alarbus Private First Class 22 Rep 128 Posts Drives: '15 F30 & '19 F36 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly iTrader: (1)	They upped the amount they were patrolling on parts of I89 the last month or so, after they announced that five police cars had been hit this winter. If you pay it, it goes away. If you fight it, you're going to have to take time off and drive up to whatever town and argue with someone, likely more than once. Is $220 worth it? I got a ticket in Charlestown NY once. Middle of nowhere between Saratoga and Amsterdam, NY. I was doing about 13 over, while going down a hill. I just paid it, I didn't see how driving out there and wasting time and money came out in my favor. It never got sent to VT DMV, so whatever. If it were in state, I'd probably fight it, but... eh. Besides, I89 should have speed limits. That way you're not doing 100 when you hit the pothole/frost heave/frost dip. They're helping you save your rims!
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