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      06-11-2011, 10:17 PM   #1
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about to sign paper for CPO 335i, reliability issue

All this hpfp,injectors etc issues make me think twice on purchasing used 335i.
I know it will be covered under CPO warranty but what I am most concerned is when the CPO warranty expires. The 335i I am looking at have about 50K on the odometer. I am planning to keep this car for long time *hopefully.
My question is, how do you guys plan to keep your 335i when warranty is over?
mostly hpfp issues.
What else issue should I be concerned?
In terms of reliability, will 335i fulfill my need? I won't be tracking, it will be just my DD and I plan to keep it long time.
Any issues I will be looking after when it hits 100,000KM? 5 years later?

Much input will be very appreciated. I have been driving e90 325i, 128i in the past. Purchasing N54 motor will be my first time and it is driving me nuts.
I really want 335i
btw, buying brand new 335i isn't my choice now so please share your thought.

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      06-11-2011, 11:01 PM   #2
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If the HPFP issue scares you then the car is not for you. The N54 is just incredible but its not for the worry wart.
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Listen not my friend. BMW has recognized the problems with the HPFP and there are bulletins increasing the warranty on said item until 100,000 miles. Anything past that and your on your won. Even then, currently a HPFP will run about 500-800 dollars plus labor. By then, it will probably be much cheaper. In the grand scheme of things, if all you're worried about is HPFP...you should be okay.

My car is 30K miles and has never had a HPFP issue. I have, however, just completed the HPFP recall in which they changed it out (about 2K miles ago).
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just curious how much and what year /specs?
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just curious how much and what year /specs?
I couldn't get much discount on the car. I am trading my 128i and just got descent deal on it.
$42k and it is 2008 fully loaded possible options as it can get.
So there is 1 year left on Factory warranty and after that 2 year CPO warranty will kick in.
Good thing about it is 4 new tires and new brakes.
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Listen not my friend. BMW has recognized the problems with the HPFP and there are bulletins increasing the warranty on said item until 100,000 miles. Anything past that and your on your won. Even then, currently a HPFP will run about 500-800 dollars plus labor. By then, it will probably be much cheaper. In the grand scheme of things, if all you're worried about is HPFP...you should be okay.

My car is 30K miles and has never had a HPFP issue. I have, however, just completed the HPFP recall in which they changed it out (about 2K miles ago).
read somewhere they also replace injectors as well.. so I do not think its only HPFP alone itself. Thanks for the advice
I looked at the history record on the car, and it had replaced HPFP 2 times already. 1 was replaced very recently, I am assuming recall?
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The warranty of my used 335i coupe has expired, and I just ran into the HPFP issue (for the first time) few days ago. The car is in limp mode now, and I will have to limp from Coquitlam to Richmond to fix it. Luckily, because of the recall, I might get this done for free, however - the recall letter doesn't state anything about the HPFP warranty being extended, so I'm not sure if it's just a one time thing.
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      06-12-2011, 08:11 AM   #8
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My warranty is expiring in 1K kms , but I will be going ahead with extended warranty via the dealership who deals with CoverOne... So I'll be getting another 80K km worth of coverage on it.. It's an 08 335xi.
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The warranty of my used 335i coupe has expired, and I just ran into the HPFP issue (for the first time) few days ago. The car is in limp mode now, and I will have to limp from Coquitlam to Richmond to fix it. Luckily, because of the recall, I might get this done for free, however - the recall letter doesn't state anything about the HPFP warranty being extended, so I'm not sure if it's just a one time thing.
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      06-12-2011, 08:40 PM   #10
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Good thing about it is 4 new tires and new brakes.
Is getting new brakes normal for a 335 at 50,000 km?

(i.e. Not sure if this sounds like this car was driven hard by the previous owner.)

Just a consideration.
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I couldn't get much discount on the car. I am trading my 128i and just got descent deal on it.
$42k and it is 2008 fully loaded possible options as it can get.
So there is 1 year left on Factory warranty and after that 2 year CPO warranty will kick in.
Good thing about it is 4 new tires and new brakes.
Did you say $42,000 with 13% taxes on top?

Dude.....
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thanks for the advices.
Now, I am seriously reconsidering this car lol
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      06-13-2011, 02:30 AM   #13
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Did you say $42,000 with 13% taxes on top?

Dude.....
So much for his $0.02 huh?

More like $5,460.02!!!

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      06-13-2011, 07:59 AM   #14
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Is getting new brakes normal for a 335 at 50,000 km?

(i.e. Not sure if this sounds like this car was driven hard by the previous owner.)

Just a consideration.
Hard to say on this one. I believe for a car to be CPO'd by BMW any components that are less than 60% wear and tear are replaced. I could be wrong on these numbers.
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Is price too high? 2008 335i e92, $42 + HST with 57k KM.
Nav,sport pkg,sound pkg,premium pkg,comfort access,pdc sensor etc....
4 new tires, new rear brakes,all body shapes are in pristine condition.
what do you guys think?
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Is price too high? 2008 335i e92, $42 + HST with 57k KM.
Nav,sport pkg,sound pkg,premium pkg,comfort access,pdc sensor etc....
4 new tires, new rear brakes,all body shapes are in pristine condition.
what do you guys think?
I personally think that 42k is high but I also know that the 2008/2009 leases were flat and less cars were returned. As such supply is low and prices are high.

IF you have to buy now, then if you could get them to knock off $500-1000, you're good. Otherwise wait.

I see a similarly equipped car in the US going for 39k LIST price. That should come down to $37,000 (and even that is high by US standards!). Throw in the duty and it's still $39,000.

All in all -- if you are DYING to buy the car, I say go for $41,000 + HST as your best offer. How much did they have it listed for when you started negotiations?

PS: This $39,000 US price is the highest listed price I chose for sake of discussion. I see others fully loaded for about $1000 less. So you definitely have room to bring them down IMHO.

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And another thing: before you buy, make sure you get a copy of the service history from them -- post that up here so that people can see how the car has been serviced and what all work has been done on the car.

I'm surprised that they'd change the tires and brakes at 57,000 kms (or 35,000 miles)....someone has driven this car like a DOG!
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And another thing: before you buy, make sure you get a copy of the service history from them -- post that up here so that people can see how the car has been serviced and what all work has been done on the car.

I'm surprised that they'd change the tires and brakes at 57,000 kms (or 35,000 miles)....someone has driven this car like a DOG!
I have the service history with me
I will upload it shortly.
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      06-13-2011, 09:22 PM   #19
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The warranty of my used 335i coupe has expired, and I just ran into the HPFP issue (for the first time) few days ago. The car is in limp mode now, and I will have to limp from Coquitlam to Richmond to fix it. Luckily, because of the recall, I might get this done for free, however - the recall letter doesn't state anything about the HPFP warranty being extended, so I'm not sure if it's just a one time thing.

BMW Canada has definately extended the warranty on the HPFP to 10 years, 160,000 km. It is covered under the emissions warranty, not the engine warranty. (I guess that way they don't have to admit an engine problem?) BMWNA (USA) led the way with the warranty and BMW Canada followed suit a couple months later.

Check engine light, loss of power and long cranking to start are all symtoms. For my car they replaced the HPFP, 3 of 6 fuel injectors, wiped the ECU clean, reprorammed it and reflashed the Dinan software (yup, even with Dinan sotfware it is covered).

335i s a great driving car. The HPFP is covered, but no BMW is better than average for reliability and all BMWs are fairly expensive to repair. I personally plan on keeping mine (08 335i) past the end of the warranty.
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I wouldn't take any car with a N54 engine. Buying a car that one personally wants is obviously a significant factor when considering a purchase, but let's not lose our senses shall we? Even if the HPFP is covered for XX number of years, there still remains the inconvenience, and the uncertainty. I suggest sticking with your 128 or if you really want a new 3 series, then get a 328 or an M3. (if money is an issue, wait it out and purchase a CPO M3 in a few years)
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BMW Canada has definately extended the warranty on the HPFP to 10 years, 160,000 km. It is covered under the emissions warranty, not the engine warranty. (I guess that way they don't have to admit an engine problem?) BMWNA (USA) led the way with the warranty and BMW Canada followed suit a couple months later.
Several members on the forum indeed say that BMW Canada extended the HPFP warranty, but it's purely speculation or word of mouth from their service advisers. No one has any documentation to actually support the claim. So far, there is only that recall letter. Hopefully I can get a scanned letter or a TSB # which I can take to my SA as proof that BMW Canada extended it to 10 years... so I don't need to pay a dime.

Also, the emission warranty is also only 4 year/80,000km.
http://www.bmw.ca/ca/en/owners/servi...arranty_2.html
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can someone verify the extended warranty on HPFP fix by BMW CAN?
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