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05-15-2011, 03:48 PM | #25 | |
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Every time you start the car everything is fully on, DSC is activated. The car is in it's safest mode. A short press will activate DTC. IIRC this is "Dynamic Traction Control". DSC is now restricted. In this mode you can have a little fun without (hopefully) wrapping your car around a lamppost. With DTC activate the car will permit a little slip without letting you get too badly out of shape, if things start to get too wild the system will intervene to save your butt. A long press (3 seconds) will deactivate DSC completely. In this mode you are completely on your Jack Jones. Get it wrong and the car will do nothing to save you. This is unlike other vehicles where, even when deactivated, the system may still intervene in extreme circumstances (Mercs come to mind IIRC). |
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05-15-2011, 06:02 PM | #27 |
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I remember a few months back it was late, and raining and I was at a traffic light waiting to go right...on the M3s the DSC button is on the side of the centre console, and if you rest your knees on the side, you can end up fully turning it off without noticing.....which happened to me. Lights turned green and the car behind me flashed me to go (it was late and my mind was not on point I must admit) so I pressed the gas a bit too hard at that moment without knowing all traction control is fully off and suddenly the car just went wild! took my by total surprise as I didnt know it was off. Slid left to right, just going insane!! luckily I gained control quick and stirred the opposite direction and gained control of the car. Really took me by surprise, now i try to make sure I dont rest my knees on that part lol.
DSC off can be good fun, its not always as bad as people make it out - you need to me more focused though, make sure you dont forget its fully off! In my 335i it used to be all over the place with it off, good fun though. The M3 is more controllable I would say. Never try it out in the wet! Dont really try it even if it rained the day before as even with just M-mode on I was going sideways for quite a bit when it was damp...felt good though
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05-16-2011, 02:58 AM | #28 |
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Hmmm... Maybe I should experiment in the dry then...
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05-16-2011, 03:50 AM | #29 |
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I love all this DSC talk. Some of us remember the BMWs of old, that really had a bite back, (E30 anyone?)
We were so pleased when DSC came along, as now cars were so much more controlled and predictable. Many an experienced BMW driver ended up the wrong way around, (or worse) entering a dual carriageway, coming off a roundabout with too much enthusiasm. Drive safe guys, remember the laws of physics come into play. HighlandPete |
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05-16-2011, 05:05 AM | #30 | |
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That's my routine! Just get used to the annoying little warning on your dash!
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I believe the correct term to use is ...*deactivate* DTC ... as when starting the car, EVERY AID IS FULLY ACTIVATED/ ON, so 1 quick press will DEACTIVATE DTC, AND ONE LONG PRESS WILL DEACTIVATE DSC.... |
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05-16-2011, 05:51 AM | #32 | |
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whap DTC on for a bit more fun, or everything off for a trip into a hedgerow! edit maybe I'm wrong, so DSC is on first?!?!?! edit again, actually I think it is activate lol I just turn it all off anyway, manfoot!
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altho DTC is illuminated on the dash..... doesn't mean that its "activated"....it means that it will now let you slide "a bit"... as TRACTION CONTROL is now DEACTIVATED. |
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Hmmm - never had that violent a reaction before with traction "half" or "fully" off.
My pulse does rise a bit when I fully disable it - never ever with kids or wife in the car! |
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and pressing the DTC button activates it, if it deactivated it wouldn't we get a warning symbol instead of just DTC?
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05-16-2011, 06:27 AM | #40 |
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I still think that it would be clearer it BMW used the word deactivate....because default mode....all aid is activated....
1 short press will deactivate DTC....which will let you slide a little bit... 1 long press will deactivate DSC...which will let you slide for longer and longer!... much more simple to undertsand! but I guess i'll have to stick to the handbook! |
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05-16-2011, 06:54 AM | #41 |
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05-16-2011, 07:51 AM | #42 |
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too harsh on the throttle while turning either on or off will cause a tank slapper (with a little damp road as well of course ,unless your really crazy and do this in the dry) ,trying to brake ,trying to straighten the car up too soon ,if they breakaway easy ,they should be coxed back gentley ,thats why i dont like dsc its too harsh ,don't try this at home though ,goto a track day or something ,the public road is not the place to try this the first,second or anytime really ,I was a boy racer with a 325i e30 as a teenager with lots of country roads to drive on ,best experience ever for car control ,wouldnt do it as a 40yr old
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05-16-2011, 08:38 AM | #43 | |
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Problem is, BMW play fast and loose with how they use DTC (and Sport+ function in some models). They emphasis the safety issue in some descriptions, and its function, but a sportier drive in other descriptions. But whatever way we read the detail, pressing the button activates a function, it switches DTC on, it doesn't switch DTC off. Traction control becomes dynamic. HighlandPete |
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