[Ilma]

Found a puddle under the passenger door and a steady dripping between the front quarter panel and the door gap.

Luckily I had just switched to a 50/50 mix a week ago due to all the meth fires lately.....and was pondering getting a trunk mount tank from Howerton Engineering.

Needless to say, I CAREFULLY drove home and immediately pumped the tank dry.

Guess today's event made the decision a lot easier now.

Funny because I pulled the front tire and wheel well off 2 weekends ago to check the WW tank for leaks and all was good.

Jeff wasn't kidding around when he said it's only a matter of time.
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[cn555ic]

Damn!

[E90SoFlo]

yup

[NiVeDh]

Did you overfill it?

[cn555ic]

Where is it leaking from?? You need to find that out as you have a Vishnu kit and it shouldn't leak from the bottom unless the filter at the bottom is shot from the meth content!

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by NiVeDh

Did you overfill it?

Nope......half filled it a couple of days prior.

I also vented the WW cap with a vacuum hose routed to the fender well area.

By the way....I was just puttering around town hardly on boost at all. I did one pull in that 45 minute drive time.

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Where is it leaking from?? You need to find that out as you have a Vishnu kit and it should leak from the bottom unless the filter at the bottom is shot from the meth content!

Too busy right now to pull the tank out again. Might try to see what I can find on the weekend.

But it's a moot point since these leaks are becoming so common....I am just going to run a trunk tank from now on.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

I really wish I was kidding.... but there is an inherent flaw and it will eventually creep up out of nowhere on anyone. Even at 50/50. Be safe guys. Hopefully more people read these threads I think it really only hits home if you know someone or have a problem happen to you personally, just reading it does no justice for some people.

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

I really wish I was kidding.... but there is an inherent flaw and it will eventually creep up out of nowhere on anyone. Even at 50/50. Be safe guys. Hopefully more people read these threads I think it really only hits home if you know someone or have a problem happen to you personally, just reading it does no justice for some people.

Which flaw are you referring to? The neck breaking?

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Which flaw are you referring to? The neck breaking?

If only it were 1 flaw...

The flaw can stem from many areas. The pump seals can leak over-time, meth can come out of the vent, the cap, or any cracked areas.

The other flaw is that it is so close to the ambient heat of the motor and more specifically turbo's, so over-time the neck along with the corrosive fluid will crack and dry it out.

A lot of people think its just the neck but that is only 1 problem area.

The other flaw is that it leaves no margin for error should a problem like the above mentioned go wrong.

I'd almost go as far as to tell everyone to go no higher then 20% concentration and use the WW reservoir for what it was intended for, windshied washing only.

If you havn't searched already there have been a good amount of fires in the past few months. More people are coming forward as time progresses and those people mainly had 50/50 or higher meth concentration for WW Meth kits.

I've been getting a plethora of questions about converting to trunk mounts, which actually used to be quite popular when meth was introduced in this platform earlier on.

For most people with a basic BMS,CM, or devils own kit it's as easy as choosing a tank, 15-20 feet of line, tank tap and moving the pump to the trunk.

[skinrock]

Seems to me that WW kits should be pulled from the shelves at this point, unless a huge warning is displayed before purchasing one. It doesn't matter how many of these threads are created, people will continue to buy it because it's convenient.

[Rotorocious]

It's the ww pump.
The seals in mine went and had Drip in the exact spot. It's common sort of if you search a bit.
New pump and I had no leaks

[SIKH335]

I had this same leak a few months back and it was the rubber strainer seal that is in between the tank and the WW pump. Replaced and no more leak.

[E3r2E9r]

Even if its the seals or anything else that you can fix it's not worth the risk. 30 min install for a trunk mount tank and your risk is severely reduced. If the pump seals failed once, it can happen again, and next time you may be calling the fire department.

[Rotorocious]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

I had this same leak a few months back and it was the rubber strainer seal that is in between the tank and the WW pump. Replaced and no more leak.

Good call also ^
It was also worth checking out for clogs. I cleaned mine out before going we meth.

[skinrock]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

I had this same leak a few months back and it was the rubber strainer seal that is in between the tank and the WW pump. Replaced and no more leak.

But was it going out before or was it the added corrosive effects of meth as Jeff mentioned? My point being that replacing something only pushes out the (apparently) inevitable failure.

[triggz]

how do you know when your meth pump is leaking and not your A/C from being on?

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by triggz

how do you know when your meth pump is leaking and not your A/C from being on?

1. I wasn't running air when this happened.
2. Air con moisture will puddle under the car directly.....not via the door panel.

[BrianMN]

This happens all the time... again no matter what type of liquid is in in the tank. Ask your friendly dealership how many WW pumps/seals they replace on a weekly basis.

This is simply another 'maintenance' item that the WW users need to perform to be on the safe side... Similar to the other WW meth flaws, these are easy and cheap parts to replace.

[caliguy562]

My money is on your windshield wiper pump. Common point of failure even with non meth cars. Meth is something that you have to constantly check..esp the ww setup. I will eventually move mine to the trunk as I'm not comfortable with the overflow vent on the ww tank

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by caliguy562

My money is on your windshield wiper pump. Common point of failure even with non meth cars. Meth is something that you have to constantly check..esp the ww setup. I will eventually move mine to the trunk as I'm not comfortable with the overflow vent on the ww tank

I suspect your hunch is correct.

I inspected all the connections a couple of weeks ago and they were dry.

Pump seems the most likely suspect.

[Brey335i]

The point is that even if it's a maintenance thing, it will happen to some people no matter how careful you are. Better to do a trunk mount and be on the safe side.

You would have to be very lucky to get a meth fire covered by insurance.