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12-07-2008, 05:53 PM | #67 |
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Yea, they are good guys over there!
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12-08-2008, 01:58 PM | #69 |
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This really has me thinking of doing on my 335. It would be awesome to get the steering feel of the M3 on that car.
Are the parts the same for the sedan?
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12-08-2008, 02:18 PM | #70 |
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12-08-2008, 05:39 PM | #71 |
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12-08-2008, 06:11 PM | #72 | |
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That's great, thanks Richwm!
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12-08-2008, 06:56 PM | #73 |
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The M/M-sport suspension package: (prices rounded, approximate, and no doubt subject to change... HP Autowerks has kits for control arms, tension rods, rear subframe bushings, and strut brace; Tischer has kits for dampers+springs+rear sway, control arms+tension rods+rear subframe bushings, and strut brace)
$550 BMW Perf dampers $350 BMW Perf springs $100 M-sport rear sway ($980 for kit @ Tischer) $405 Front control arms & tension rods $220 M3 Rear subframe bushings $600 Rear guide rods and upper links _____ $2205 sub-total _____ $315 M3 Front strut brace $50 Used E92 rear chassis brace (for E90) or $350 Hotchkis _____ $2570 total About the cost of the Premium package... I know which option I would choose! Install costs will vary depending on who does it, but note that at a minimum you will need a proper alignment. Good shops are likely to charge about $400 for the dampers+springs, $300 for the rear sway, $300 for rear bushings (might be savings doing them together with sway or differential LSD work), $100 for control arms+tension rods, and $100 for alignment. OT here, but add the BMW Perf exhaust, brake kit (when available for 335), forged wheels & non-rfts, Quaife LSD, tune, lightweight battery, interior & exterior M-sport bits, and along with the suspension stuff above, you have a car similar in most performance respects to the M3 for 15-18k depending on labor costs. At least 100 lbs. lighter to boot. Sure would make a factory ZMP/tii package with most of the above stuff a bargain at 4-5k...
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12-10-2008, 10:10 AM | #74 |
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I edited the first page to get rid of the prices.
They have changed a bit since I have purchased them.
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12-14-2008, 08:53 AM | #75 |
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Mr. 5 did you have any problems geting the wishbones into the sub-frame mount? mine were so tight that I had to beat them in with a rubber mallet. Oh and my original tension struts were shot the bushings were like jello, I could move them with my fingers. Thanks to you and ORB all of my front suspension issues are now solved and my car now drives better than when it was new.
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12-14-2008, 09:46 AM | #76 |
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These mods make great sense for those with high mileage cars.
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12-14-2008, 03:05 PM | #77 |
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+1 I think my tension strut bushings were bad at 75k miles. The wishbones were fine but I just wanted to do both M parts.
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12-14-2008, 03:48 PM | #78 |
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As a general rule it's a good idea to replace the system as a whole.
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12-15-2008, 12:37 AM | #79 |
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12-21-2008, 07:16 PM | #80 | |
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Just curious..How do you get that "V" section of the M strut brace connect under the cowl? Does the cowl and wipers have to come off to remove the OEM brace and to install the M brace. It looks like it fits in a tunnel...everything else looks straight forward. |
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12-21-2008, 07:43 PM | #81 |
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M strut brace install question
Just curious..How do you get that "V" section of the M strut brace to connect under the cowl? Does the cowl and wipers have to come off to remove the OEM brace and to install the M brace. It looks like it fits in a tunnel...everything else looks straight forward.
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12-21-2008, 07:54 PM | #82 | |
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12-22-2008, 01:30 AM | #83 | |
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Tension struts only
So many thanks to you guys for trying this stuff out. Is the bushing in the 335 wishbone really that weak? Those of you who did the replacement, what do you think? I'd like to do only the tension struts, and avoid (some of) the camber change.
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12-29-2008, 08:01 AM | #85 |
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The bushings in my wishbones were fine after 95k miles but the tension struts were very soft so I think you would be fine only changing the tension struts.
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12-29-2008, 12:01 PM | #86 |
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The problem with changing just one part is that the remaining soft OEM parts are then subject to more force. It's like having two equal rubber bands connected to one another; when you pull them apart, they both stretch equally. If you replace one of the rubber bands with a thicker/stiffer one, then when you pull them apart the same distance as before (same force) the thinner/more elastic one will be stretched much further, because the stiffer one does not stretch as much.
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12-29-2008, 01:33 PM | #87 |
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Thanks guys. I wish I could find a photo of the front suspension, so I can visualize exactly where these parts are going. The parts diagram in the ETK is not helping me.
There must be a useful photo in the media section of e90post, but I haven't found anything yet. We need a tagging system for photos. |
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We don't see a problem just changing one of the components as each one exposed to a diff force. However, why not do both if you are already in there doing the upgrade! |
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