335i in september will get M3's DCT 7 speed.

rogerxp · 07-17-2008, 06:47 AM

I'm sure that light-weight materials are being used these days to minimise any additional weight so there's probably not a massive increase; certainly not enought to make noticable differences to the handling & speed. However, I'd still go manual... ...I think!!!

Yahoo · 07-17-2008, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Im sure BMW will argue that its faster. As do Audi and Ferrari and whoever else.

There's no argument about it. In the hand of 99% of people it will be faster - just not necessarily better!

Porscha! · 07-17-2008, 12:41 PM

Manuals do indeed rule

So far we have a five?! strong arguement

Autos have one.

Which proves manual is best!!

dxb335d · 07-17-2008, 12:43 PM

I didnt say auto Porcha. I said Semi Auto. A propa box if you ask me.

Normal autos are wank. Everyone i have tried up untill the 335 was shiiiight. The one in my current car works very well. Wish it was DCT though.

Porscha! · 07-17-2008, 01:00 PM

We will never agree on this I don't think

SemiAuto to me is "Auto" if it was more manual than auto it would be called SemiManual!

I can appreciate they are very, very good.

Thing is you can't beat properly changing gear yourself, with a clutch. Three pedals are better than two for me because I don't feel like I'm driving in an Auto, very hard to explain!

It's less the fact that they have come on sooooo much more the fact that you don't have a clutch pedal which annoys me, it's automated, it's not mechnical, you cannot get the same pleasure driving any Auto or SemiAuto than driving a manual.

I'm sure this could be discussed to high heaven and we will have difference of opinion

Theres those who love technology and have such a thing for outright speed, performance and power and theres those who like more basic, traditional car with more feel and character. I know which I am and can guess which you are!

Nothing wrong with either, just have a difference of values which make a car their desired vehicle.

CrimsonRedE93 · 07-17-2008, 01:03 PM

Sounds like Carlos need some support.

I think an auto box is much better than manual, I can eat a burger and hold my milkshake whilst I do some 0 to 60 tests

dxb335d · 07-17-2008, 01:05 PM

No i love a manual. But when when a faster more accomplished item is on offer for the same car it really is a no brainer. But i would be quite happy for every road car to be a manual.

With a manual i take liberties.

Porscha! · 07-17-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

No i love a manual. But when when a faster more accomplished item is on offer for the same car it really is a no brainer. But i would be quite happy for every road car to be a manual.

With a manual i take liberties.

I'm not saying you don't like manuals I was trying to say that outright speed and performance mean the most to you in a car? Am I right?

You take liberties, whats that meant to mean?

Porscha! · 07-17-2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonRedE93

Sounds like Carlos need some support.

I think an auto box is much better than manual, I can eat a burger and hold my milkshake whilst I do some 0 to 60 tests

ROFL

booforty · 07-17-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRedE93

Sounds like Carlos need some support.

I think an auto box is much better than manual, I can eat a burger and hold my milkshake whilst I do some 0 to 60 tests

willhollin · 07-17-2008, 03:27 PM

Nothing wrong with a semi now and again but its not as useful as a full hard on.

booforty · 07-17-2008, 03:29 PM

There's always one who lowers the tone!

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