3 month 4,400mi E85 Review on 100% stock fuel system

slostjoe · 12-12-2012, 04:59 PM

I just wanted to share my experience for people who are questioning or are uneducated on the use of e85 on the factory fuel system.

My mods are DCI's, FMIC, 3"dp's Cobb/bms flash and jb4. Everything else is stock minus changing plugs at 50k miles.

I routinely drive my car hard and lately have had several 15* cold starts using 100% e85.

The car dynoed 441whp and 483wtq which I have a separate thread for the dyno results

I have had zero issues with my car running this fuel the response and consistency are amazing and all the help from Terry at Burger Motorsports has been amazing. I just wanted to share my results and the fact that I don't have any issues and I will keep updating if any issues arise, I should mention that before the bms flash I was not able to run anymore than 50% e85 without issues.

enrita · 12-12-2012, 05:15 PM

can you post logs showing lpfp/hpfp pressure?

slostjoe · 12-12-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

can you post logs showing lpfp/hpfp pressure?

Sure can. I also regularly send logs to Terry at least once a week.

ksalih · 12-12-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slostjoe

I just wanted to share my experience for people who are questioning or are uneducated on the use of e85 on the factory fuel system.

My mods are DCI's, FMIC, 3"dp's Cobb/bms flash and jb4. Everything else is stock minus changing plugs at 50k miles.

I routinely drive my car hard and lately have had several 15* cold starts using 100% e85.

The car dynoed 441whp and 483wtq which I have a separate thread for the dyno results

I have had zero issues with my car running this fuel the response and consistency are amazing and all the help from Terry at Burger Motorsports has been amazing. I just wanted to share my results and the fact that I don't have any issues and I will keep updating if any issues arise, I should mention that before the bmw flash I was not able to run anymore than 50% e85 without issues.

Great! Did you mean you couldn't run more than 50% e85 before BMS flash. Not BMW?

wtfmateim65 · 12-12-2012, 06:15 PM

No lsd? What tires do you run? I'm getting frustrated since I don't get traction anymore with e85 and have shredded a pair of Pilot Sport A/S within 10k miles :/ haha. Same mods as you minus the BMS flash

chicagob5 · 12-12-2012, 06:18 PM

stock clutch?

flexinator · 12-12-2012, 06:28 PM

Are you running pure e85?

Or what mix?

slostjoe · 12-12-2012, 07:32 PM

Stupid autocorrect lol yes BMS not BMW.

Traction is very much an issues lol I have no LSD and an act HDSD clutch.

Pure 100% e85 yes.

ichi_ban · 12-12-2012, 11:31 PM

Damn that's a lot of power just with E85!!!! How is the mileage?

slostjoe · 12-12-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamSoloE93

Damn that's a lot of power just with E85!!!! How is the mileage?

Honestly it's terrible. I've been averaging about 14.3mpg but there is a lot of full throttle throughout my tanks and mainly city driving. I used to average 19mpg on pump gas.

I'm basically getting what a 400hp car should get in town so I don't complain. I can get around 23mpg highway on e85.

blisstik · 12-12-2012, 11:54 PM

Can't believe it's on stock LPFP. Please post logs.

boostaholic786 · 12-13-2012, 03:02 AM

I have been running same mods plus a couple more with now 60% E85 with the JB4 G5 ISO and BMS flash and have 0 issues. before the flash I have been running atleast 50% for more than 10 months straight. Every single tank. I as well post logs to Terry and so far everything seems to be spot on thank God!

TigOn. · 12-13-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by boostaholic786

I have been running same mods plus a couple more with now 60% E85 with the JB4 G5 ISO and BMS flash and have 0 issues. before the flash I have been running atleast 50% for more than 10 months straight. Every single tank. I as well post logs to Terry and so far everything seems to be spot on thank God!

Whats been the difference when you upgraded to the G5 board with the BMS flash?

Im planning these two upgrades next

dlbrooks18 · 12-13-2012, 07:57 AM

Thanks for the post and please keep us updated every few months, curious if the fuel pumps and/or injectors will hold up... Awesome power!

JStang · 12-13-2012, 08:17 AM

Long term results will tell the tale. I'm willing to roll the dice though.

GOTMH8N · 12-13-2012, 08:29 AM

Interesting stuff! Gotta love that JB4!

joec500 · 12-13-2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slostjoe

I just wanted to share my experience for people who are questioning or are uneducated on the use of e85 on the factory fuel system.

My mods are DCI's, FMIC, 3"dp's Cobb/bms flash and jb4. Everything else is stock minus changing plugs at 50k miles.

I routinely drive my car hard and lately have had several 15* cold starts using 100% e85.

The car dynoed 441whp and 483wtq which I have a separate thread for the dyno results

I have had zero issues with my car running this fuel the response and consistency are amazing and all the help from Terry at Burger Motorsports has been amazing. I just wanted to share my results and the fact that I don't have any issues and I will keep updating if any issues arise, I should mention that before the bms flash I was not able to run anymore than 50% e85 without issues.

NICE, I have about 2,000 miles on a similar setup from Vishnu and LOVE The power. No issues on my car either.

I was considering a single turbo, but the 100% E85 provides more than enough power for the street.

I drove Shiv's car once and the damn thing is too scary to drive on the street IMO. Maybe I am just too Grandpa.

The E85 stuff is showing a ton of promise and bang for the buck, keep us updated on how your setup and holding up.

Dmacc · 12-13-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JStang

Long term results will tell the tale. I'm willing to roll the dice though.

Agreed, we won't see anything change for at least a year or two, I'm interested to see what happens, but in the meantime I'll play the game

Good info OP!

Notsafe335i · 12-13-2012, 12:34 PM

Have you tested the ethanol that you get for content value? During these months you might only see an e70 or e75. What time of year was the dyno pull made?

I've been having issues with my car breaking up under high RPMs when running the autotune map with e85, which I was guessing was the LPFP. How many miles are on your car?

robc1976 · 12-13-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfmateim65

No lsd? What tires do you run? I'm getting frustrated since I don't get traction anymore with e85 and have shredded a pair of Pilot Sport A/S within 10k miles :/ haha. Same mods as you minus the BMS flash

Same here lol!! Got RB's and no LSD = going sideways at 100mph lol!! Have a wavetrac, M3 upper & lower control arms & BC BR coilovers on the way. Going to try and fit a PSS 295/25/20 in the rear, not o fond of the nitto invo's.

robc1976 · 12-13-2012, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slostjoe

I just wanted to share my experience for people who are questioning or are uneducated on the use of e85 on the factory fuel system.

My mods are DCI's, FMIC, 3"dp's Cobb/bms flash and jb4. Everything else is stock minus changing plugs at 50k miles.

I routinely drive my car hard and lately have had several 15* cold starts using 100% e85.

The car dynoed 441whp and 483wtq which I have a separate thread for the dyno results

I have had zero issues with my car running this fuel the response and consistency are amazing and all the help from Terry at Burger Motorsports has been amazing. I just wanted to share my results and the fact that I don't have any issues and I will keep updating if any issues arise, I should mention that before the bms flash I was not able to run anymore than 50% e85 without issues.

I have 10,000 miles on E85 and no issues so far....just bald tires.

Dmacc · 12-13-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robc1976

Quote:

Originally Posted by slostjoe

I just wanted to share my experience for people who are questioning or are uneducated on the use of e85 on the factory fuel system.

My mods are DCI's, FMIC, 3"dp's Cobb/bms flash and jb4. Everything else is stock minus changing plugs at 50k miles.

I routinely drive my car hard and lately have had several 15* cold starts using 100% e85.

The car dynoed 441whp and 483wtq which I have a separate thread for the dyno results

I have had zero issues with my car running this fuel the response and consistency are amazing and all the help from Terry at Burger Motorsports has been amazing. I just wanted to share my results and the fact that I don't have any issues and I will keep updating if any issues arise, I should mention that before the bms flash I was not able to run anymore than 50% e85 without issues.

I have 10,000 miles on E85 and no issues so far....just bald tires.

+1 here

E85 isn't friendly with 245's

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slostjoe NEWBICON 17 Rep 304 Posts Drives: E92 335is Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Springfield, MO iTrader: (6)	I just wanted to share my experience for people who are questioning or are uneducated on the use of e85 on the factory fuel system. My mods are DCI's, FMIC, 3"dp's Cobb/bms flash and jb4. Everything else is stock minus changing plugs at 50k miles. I routinely drive my car hard and lately have had several 15* cold starts using 100% e85. The car dynoed 441whp and 483wtq which I have a separate thread for the dyno results I have had zero issues with my car running this fuel the response and consistency are amazing and all the help from Terry at Burger Motorsports has been amazing. I just wanted to share my results and the fact that I don't have any issues and I will keep updating if any issues arise, I should mention that before the bms flash I was not able to run anymore than 50% e85 without issues. __________________ 2013 Race Red GT500 708whp www.cmsmotorsports.com Last edited by slostjoe; 12-16-2012 at 01:51 AM..
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	can you post logs showing lpfp/hpfp pressure? __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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wtfmateim65 First Lieutenant 17 Rep 305 Posts Drives: AW 92 335i JB4 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vegas iTrader: (2)	No lsd? What tires do you run? I'm getting frustrated since I don't get traction anymore with e85 and have shredded a pair of Pilot Sport A/S within 10k miles :/ haha. Same mods as you minus the BMS flash
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slostjoe NEWBICON 17 Rep 304 Posts Drives: E92 335is Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Springfield, MO iTrader: (6)	Stupid autocorrect lol yes BMS not BMW. Traction is very much an issues lol I have no LSD and an act HDSD clutch. Pure 100% e85 yes. __________________ 2013 Race Red GT500 708whp www.cmsmotorsports.com
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boostaholic786 Captain 40 Rep 623 Posts Drives: E92 N54 with MHD Custom flash Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Plano TX iTrader: (0)	I have been running same mods plus a couple more with now 60% E85 with the JB4 G5 ISO and BMS flash and have 0 issues. before the flash I have been running atleast 50% for more than 10 months straight. Every single tank. I as well post logs to Terry and so far everything seems to be spot on thank God! __________________ [SIZE="2"]Crimson Red E92 335i M-sport 6-speed with MHD custom stage 2+ flash only , 40% E85/93 mix,+ HRE P40S wheels, KW Clubsport, M3 sways,+BMW performance CF Mirrors, BMW Performance CF deck lid spoiler,+ CF interior trim, p3 vent boost gauge,+ LUX angel eyes (11.73@124mph on street tires)
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dlbrooks18 Brigadier General 161 Rep 3,736 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	Thanks for the post and please keep us updated every few months, curious if the fuel pumps and/or injectors will hold up... Awesome power! __________________ 2008 E90 335
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Notsafe335i Private 2 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio iTrader: (1)	Have you tested the ethanol that you get for content value? During these months you might only see an e70 or e75. What time of year was the dyno pull made? I've been having issues with my car breaking up under high RPMs when running the autotune map with e85, which I was guessing was the LPFP. How many miles are on your car? __________________ Rocky 2007 335i Sedan 1991 Toyota Supra, 1JZ swap, T66 single, supporting mods.
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