[5soko]

brining my car in for its second service visit.
my friend has 335i aswell, he is woendering if she take out his filter and SSTT?

[scalbert]

Leave filter in and take SSTT out.

[5soko]

will they do the software update and recalls ?

[slant83]

ditto..why take the chance

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

will they do the software update and recalls ?

Recalls, most likely. If the recall involves updates, then yes and that part. But updates may not be applied just because it is in there.

[bannanna hammock]

tell your advisor:

hey, im in a rush, just do the seatbelt arm, nothing else, ill bring the car back if it needs anything else.


whoa doggie.

[revah2]

isnt the whole reason why you bought the sstt becaue its easily removable?
why take the chance

[ChaneRZ]

take it out man.

[stillclaimndp]

dude you have sstt... well worth 1 minute to take it out. filter will be fine that does nothing to your warranty.

[dinkoh]

Don't they sell the SSTT at some CA BMW dealerships? If so, I would think it be OK to leave it in.

[Seth_Horwitz]

Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

filter will be fine that does nothing to your warranty.

The filter shouldn't do anything to your warranty, but if it distintegrates and gets sucked in to the combustion chamber and that somehow causes damage, you can bet BMW will try. Have I ever heard of a filter causing any engine issues whatsoever? No. But, don't assume that BMWNA will cut you a break for anything if you have a modification that can even remotely be involved in your failure. I agree with everyone else, though. Leave the filter in, take out the SSTT. In my opinion you will do more damage by taking out and putting dirty filters back in (from the dirt that shakes loose on the "wrong" side of the filter) than any aftermarket filter can do.

[bannanna hammock]

k&n filters and other ones like it are known for causing problems in mafs equipped cars.

the oil that the filter is saturated with comes off an coats the element.

not a problem on 335's per say, but food for though for someone saying they have never heard of a filter causing any issues what so ever.

[Seth_Horwitz]

I stand corrected. I should've said "I've never heard of someone's warranty getting voided for a replacement filter."

I just want to make sure that no one thinks you can change seemingly insignificant things without acknowleging that it might come back to harm you. People are very brave when talking about the MM act and saying things like "they have to prove that your mod broke such and such" while sitting in the comfort of their homes and typing a message, with their fully functional cars sitting in the driveway. That doesn't do you much good, though, when you're sitting in the service area being told that your claim has been denied. You always have the option of trying to file a suit, but don't expect BMW to lay down over a threat. They have scores of lawyers and engineers that already work for them, and you'll need to hire your own to prove your case. Good luck. Unless an engine that costs tens of thousands of dollars goes on you, and you are positive that you can prove that you are not at fault, it's not worth going to court.

Anything you do to your car that wasn't already done when it came for a boat ride from Germany is a potential loophole that the factory can use to get out of a warranty claim. (I remember a little sticker right by the driver's head in my '99 M3 that said "The use of any electronics, including cellular telephones, radar detectors (wired or wireless), [...] can void the electrical warranty on this automobile." I don't think anybody was charged if the factory stereo amp blew and they happened to own a cell phone, but it's pretty clear that BMW doesn't want anything in that car that they didn't engneer to be there.) Open up a door panel and look at the little plastic clips that hold the wires in place, items that will never be seen by human eyes in 99.9% of all cars, and you'll see how much thought was put into your car. They don't want "Hanz the BMW Specialist" in Podunk, Iowa messing with their work.

[5soko]

yea im gonna tell my friend to take his SSTT out.

[dr.roro]

In the time it took you to ask the same question 3 times in this thread, you could have

a) just removed the SSTT or
b) called the dealer and asked them.

[5soko]

Originally Posted by dr.roro

In the time it took you to ask the same question 3 times in this thread, you could have

a) just removed the SSTT or
b) called the dealer and asked them.

asked them what? service is closed today.

[2e9x's]

Take it out. The risk/reward ratio just is not on the side of leaving it in.

The vehicle reflash took all day on my car. For sure take the SSTT out if you are doing a reflash as the computer will be connected to the car and the data sent to BMW. What you don't want is for them to see some values out of spec that are really caused by the SSTT but the dealership goes searching for a different cause.