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Motor Trend Magazine checks in after 1300miles with the 335d
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01-25-2010, 10:10 PM | #1 | |
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Motor Trend Magazine checks in after 1300miles with the 335d
Motor Trend magazine has embarked on an exploration of what its like to live with a Diesel powered car in the USA. One of their long term road test cars happens to be a beautiful montego blue 335d sedan. In the article, they document their 1300mile experience with the car. Its just a start, but I hope to read more about the car and what everyday life with it in the US will be like. Some quotes from the article Quote:
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01-25-2010, 10:20 PM | #3 |
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I'm glad I already have one.
Thanks, Mark!
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01-25-2010, 10:46 PM | #4 |
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it would have sucked if his HPFP went out while in the dessert...
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01-25-2010, 10:55 PM | #5 |
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01-25-2010, 11:20 PM | #6 |
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QFT. The diesel isn't built the same as the N54, thus does not have a HPFP (the diesel engine doesn't need it), and so far (crossing my fingers), there are no major known issues.
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01-25-2010, 11:55 PM | #7 | |
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The HPFP in the 335d is part number 13517804409 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...58&hg=13&fg=15 BTW, the diesel HPFP pump the fuel to even larger pressure than the gasoline engine. A major advantage of diesel over gasoline is that diesel act as a lubricant. |
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01-26-2010, 08:14 AM | #11 |
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I've been really interested in the 335d for a while, but would it be really worth it coming from a 330i that does 20/30 mpg and has manual to a 335d that gets 23/36 (I believe). What do you think?
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01-26-2010, 08:19 AM | #12 |
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I have to say, I'm not impressed with the mpg figures they're reporting in the article. I've done just about as well w/my 335i on similar-length trips. Around here diesel is more expensive than 93 octane gas. If I had a 335d I don't think I'd be able to recoup the extra cost of the car/fuel for as long as I owned the vehicle.
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01-26-2010, 08:40 AM | #13 |
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01-26-2010, 08:44 AM | #14 | |
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335i with A/T 17 / 26 and the 335d (A/T standard) is 23 / 36. Safe to say on "your trips" you'd probably get better mileage than they did. Can't argue that. |
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01-26-2010, 08:58 AM | #15 | |
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01-26-2010, 09:08 AM | #16 | |
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tuners over in europe have modified the engine in the 335d to make a hell of a lot more torque than a 335i could make on stock turbos
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I meant that it's not the same HPFP that exists in the 335i. Quote:
This is mixed city/highway. My trip to Phoenix over the holiday had me pacing for a 700+ mile tank (and I didn't go the random routes he did), until I started doing a bit of city driving while there. Quote:
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01-26-2010, 09:22 AM | #19 |
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Great article.
Having just driven 1348 km around Germany and Austria after picking up the 335d at the BMW Welt, I can agree with many of the author´s sentiments. You can read about the pick-up at the BMW Welt and the drives to Lindau, Berchtesgaden, Roßfeld, Graz, and back to Munich at The Diesel Driver.
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01-26-2010, 09:55 AM | #20 |
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The thing to keep in mind when comparing the torque of the diesel to the gas engine, is that it is not apples to apples and that is because of the vast power-band of the gas engine allows more aggressive gearing. For example, the M3 has only 295 torque, but puts more torque to the rear wheel in 3rd gear than the 335d, and that's because of very aggressive gearing. So yes, the 335d has great torque, especially around town, but you have to compare cars apples to apples (factor in gearing) to see the real torque difference. And yes, I have driven the 335d.
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01-26-2010, 10:04 AM | #21 | |
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Show me the map for the M3 torque. I disagree with your torque assessments, as the math doesn't support your conclusion. I'm open to rebuttal, however. I've asked demo to provide the chart for the M3, so we'll see if you are correct. If you are, I'll happily step down on that assessment. However, the 'vast powerband' of the gas engine doesn't compare to the 'vast powerband' of the diesel. Just because it has a lower RPM doesn't make the powerband any less, and stock for stock, you're right, you can't compare the d to the i. There is a distinct difference in feel, favoring the d.
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01-26-2010, 10:18 AM | #22 | |
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But I would argue the powerband is less in the diesl. For example, even though the peak toque of the diesel is greater than, say the 335i, it is not available over as wide a powerband. At 60mph, for example, the diesel would be in third gear (less torque) while the 335i or M3 for that matter, would still be in 2nd gear (greater torque due to gearing)
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