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      11-07-2016, 08:47 PM   #1
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Headers+Mids+PE = kinda alright! (update)

Please don't be loud, please don't be loud, please don't be loud!!

Edit: It was loud - it's still loud, but it does seem to have become WAAAYY more civil. I went home, had the clamps re-tightened (there seems to be a minor leak though) and reset adaptations.

It's still raspy as hell around 2K RPM, but the volume seems to have dropped significantly while I was driving to work today. Around 3000rpm-4500 or so at partial throttle, the car is civil - seriously. There is still some rasp, but it's volume isn't outrageous as it was before.


Power was abysmal at first too - I felt like I was stuck in 5th and 6th gear...which I was, because taking it above 4000RPM is still loud. But as I drove more and more, the car started to pick up a bit here and there. I finally got a change to to a flat out 4th gear pull and it's pretty awesome - I'll keep you updated

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Where's the video and dyno chartz?!?!
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I'm installing now - don't be loud!
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Went by a coworker in the next lane near redline on the freeway and with windows up he said it was about as loud as a loud Harley. Not really a big deal as far as he was concerned.
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Can't wait to do my headers! But first I'm going to work on the suspension!
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Get ready to shatter your ear drums. It sounds like sex but it's incredibly loud.
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Not even remotely. Headers, no secondaries, and a race muffler, now that's ear shattering. I've had both, there's a world of difference.
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Not even remotely. Headers, no secondaries, and a race muffler, now that's ear shattering. I've had both, there's a world of difference.
So the PE is quieter than the race muffler?! As long as it's streetable for a few weeks, no WOT.
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So the PE is quieter than the race muffler?! As long as it's streetable for a few weeks, no WOT.
Oh hellz yeah! I can start the car at five in the morning and it's not a big deal. Now it's going to set off alarms even with the garage door closed. Probably violates trackside noise limits for some tracks.
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Yeah, I'll need to install the SS mids tomorrow, they are too long and I can't cut them this late. The headers are in, and finishing up the final touches...
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Yes it's loud. I had MMW headers, to SS midpipes, to a PE.
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Yes it's loud. I had MMW headers, to SS midpipes, to a PE.
Vids? Streetable?
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Headers and PE sounds AMAZING, but VERY loud over 4K with *some* rasp on deceleration.
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Headers and PE sounds AMAZING, but VERY loud over 4K with *some* rasp on deceleration.
I can vouch for this
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I can vouch for this
It's actually stock sounding/civil in normal driving - and if I don't put a lot of load on the engine, the engine can stay fairly quiet while I drive around. But it sounds SO GOOD.
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Exactly, you can make the decision to deafen the public or just drive like it's a normal exhaust.
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I'll try to find some videos and post them later. It sounded good, I never minded having a loud car.
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Headers and PE sounds AMAZING, but VERY loud over 4K with *some* rasp on deceleration.
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It's actually stock sounding/civil in normal driving - and if I don't put a lot of load on the engine, the engine can stay fairly quiet while I drive around. But it sounds SO GOOD.
Perfect description.
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Completely undrivable. BMW PE IS FOR SALE.
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It's not streetable. 2000RPM causes a weird harmonic that rasps so loud, but it calms down all the way up to around 3k. It will still be a tad raspy over that, but it's not loud..until you give the car more than 30% throttle.

Dependingon the RPM and the throttle position it could be decent - and then instantly too loud. I can't.

Oh, and the smell is terrible. High flow cat, bottle resonators and a good muffler are coming up asap.
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