[enrita]

looks very clean ! you actually have the perfect spot for the tank placement.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by enrita

looks very clean ! you actually have the perfect spot for the tank placement.

Thanks for the compliment!....Former Boosted IS was right about this mod being the most challenging to him as well as to me because there is no pre-concieved way of installing the kit...Every person can do it a different way, but ultimately get to the same place and thats Meth injection!
It took me about a week to plan a course of action because none of the locations that FBIS, Shiv's kit, and NJ323ci used is available to me because of the uniqueness of the E93 trunk...Every single space is accounted for to fit into the trunk from the electronical modules, to the hydrolics for the hardtop, so real way to even relocate it because the convertible top takes almost all the space when its in the trunk..You should not have as many problems as I did thats for sure!

[ChadR]

Just curious as to why no one has tapped the windshield washer tank yet? Seems like it would be ideal because you can use a 50/50 mix as washer fluid, it has a built in low level warning, holds over a gallon and doesn't require mounting in the trunk. Any feedback on why it hasn't been a choice thus far? It seems like it would make perfect sense but perhaps there is something I am overlooking.

[Craig@SupremePower]

looks good steven.. can't wait to get mine in!

[BoxerGT2.5]

Originally Posted by Thrice

Just curious as to why no one has tapped the windshield washer tank yet? Seems like it would be ideal because you can use a 50/50 mix as washer fluid, it has a built in low level warning, holds over a gallon and doesn't require mounting in the trunk. Any feedback on why it hasn't been a choice thus far? It seems like it would make perfect sense but perhaps there is something I am overlooking.

Hell, you can use washer fluid.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Thrice

Just curious as to why no one has tapped the windshield washer tank yet? Seems like it would be ideal because you can use a 50/50 mix as washer fluid, it has a built in low level warning, holds over a gallon and doesn't require mounting in the trunk. Any feedback on why it hasn't been a choice thus far? It seems like it would make perfect sense but perhaps there is something I am overlooking.

I am sure you could, but there is still no room to fit the pump anywhere in the engine bay that I could imagine and if you mount the pump in the trunk, there will be too much fuel lines that need to be run back and forth to get to the same place which is the nozzle. I think FBIS stating something about the the use of windshield tank and the disadvantages ot it, but you need to scroll back and read this monster of a thread!

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Septro

Best. Review. EVER.

Septro, thank you. It is nice to see that everyone is getting just as excited about Methanol as I am. I am also glad to see this post helping a lot of people.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Terrance28

How are these pumps measured? My pump is a 250psi pump, its set at 200 from coolingmist but can be set higher at 250psi.

I don't want to start a war, so I will only present the facts. The CM pump is rated at 200 psi from Aquatec per Bryan the President of Aquatec. It can be over driven to 250 psi using the adjustment screw, but that can compromise the life of the pump. It is the same 200 psi pump that you see on the rest of the market. Just some facts.

The Snow Performance SHO pump is an exclusive pump made by Aquatec. The bottom line is Snow is the only company that has the pump period. The Snow Performance SHO pump has the following features:

1. Higher pressure – 20 psi higher than even the competitors’ “250” pumps. This equates to better atomization and more power potential.
2. Constant pressure – maintains set pressure and doesn’t cycle like other commonly used designs for even injection, less oscillation.
3. More robust – double seals are used within to ensure long life even in the highest duty cycle applications and environments.
4. More reliability – more pressure with less current draw and improved thermal loading capability. This equates to less heat build up for longer life and the ability to run for extended periods compared to other pumps.

These are just the methanol pump facts.

[Kevin@AKMotorwerk]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I don't want to start a war, so I will only present the facts. The CM pump is rated at 200 psi from Aquatec per Bryan the President of Aquatec. It can be over driven to 250 psi using the adjustment screw, but that can compromise the life of the pump. It is the same 200 psi pump that you see on the rest of the market. Just some facts.

The Snow Performance SHO pump is an exclusive pump made by Aquatec. The bottom line is Snow is the only company that has the pump period. The Snow Performance SHO pump has the following features:

1. Higher pressure – 20 psi higher than even the competitors’ “250” pumps. This equates to better atomization and more power potential.
2. Constant pressure – maintains set pressure and doesn’t cycle like other commonly used designs for even injection, less oscillation.
3. More robust – double seals are used within to ensure long life even in the highest duty cycle applications and environments.
4. More reliability – more pressure with less current draw and improved thermal loading capability. This equates to less heat build up for longer life and the ability to run for extended periods compared to other pumps.

These are just the methanol pump facts.

the snow sho pumps are 250 psi, but come pre set to 200psi per derek at snow. but they are by far the best pumps available, thats the main reason we went with snow performance

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by sexye92

the snow sho pumps are 250 psi, but come pre set to 200psi per derek at snow. but they are by far the best pumps available, thats the main reason we went with snow performance

That is not the case, trust me on this one. The CM pump and every other pump on the market is rated at 200 psi. The Snow Performance SHO pump is rated at 220 psi. Everytime you turn the adjustment screw you add about 12% more flow. This is how some of the companies claim a 250 psi pump. With the 12% addition for each turn of the screw, then that equates to approximately 270 psi. This is from Matt Snow himself.

[cn555ic]

what psi is the SP pump come from factory? Also is there a need to turn it up?

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

what does the SP pump come from factory? Also is there a need to turn it up?

It comes set to 220 psi. Turning it up, increases the amount of fluid that you will inject. If you look at the first post, I put up the correction factors for different pressures.

I personally run 220 psi and two pretty small nozzles to get 520-540 ml/min of fluid. The correction factors I posted are spot on via my flow gauge.

[marconi118]

are these high pressure needed?

I intend to do it with low pressure pump and bigger hole injector at 50psi.

Is this possible? maybe not optimal but possible????

[cn555ic]

the more pressure the better the atomization from what I hear..better atomization leads to better chances of it evaporating and not pooling..

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by marconi118

are these high pressure needed?

I intend to do it with low pressure pump and bigger hole injector at 50psi.

Is this possible? maybe not optimal but possible????

50 psi is a bad idea. The larger nozzle means larger droplets and poor atomization. The goal is to go with the highest pressure and smallest nozzle combo.

[Alex@AKMotorwerk]

Steven... setup looks good. Glad you found a spot for the pump

Here's a few pics of where i moved the amp to in order to mount my pump (thanks for the tip Kevin )

[marconi118]

Yes I know it would be better 220psi with small nozzle.

Actually my plan is to use the built in headlight wash pump for the injection but it gives max 50PSI, flow should be OK

This is for convenience, tank and pump are already there, only need connecting pipes and controller. will neet a 1000ml/min nozzle that maybe at 50psi will flow 500ml?

isnt' better to atomize the water inside the combustion chamber? it will cool even more the charge?

[Alex@AKMotorwerk]

a few more pics of the Safe Injection unit mounted and the controller in the engine bay. Mounted the controller this way to gain access to it if need be and still keep it almost invisible
Also took Former Boosted's idea of mounting the Safe Injection where he did, but took it one step further and placed it on TOP of that plate to avoid all of the road elements. It's hard to tell from Former's pics, but it looks like he mounted it on the bottom of the plate facing towards the ground.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by marconi118

Yes I know it would be better 220psi with small nozzle.

Actually my plan is to use the built in headlight wash pump for the injection but it gives max 50PSI, flow should be OK

This is for convenience, tank and pump are already there, only need connecting pipes and controller. will neet a 1000ml/min nozzle that maybe at 50psi will flow 500ml?

isnt' better to atomize the water inside the combustion chamber? it will cool even more the charge?

I am going to tell you this, if you do that then you are heading toward disaster. The first problem, and probably smallest you will encounter is that the large water droplets will not cool your charge well at all. Second, you will have a lot of liquid entering the chamber and on a motor that is sensitive to quench, then you have a big problem. I am willing to bet money you would suffer serious quench. Third, you are injecting with only 50 psi into a charge pipe with 15 psi of air in it, so you will over drive the pump instaneously. Once that pump fails, that you enter into other serious problems.

I cannot tell you what to do, but I can tell you this is not advised.

[cn555ic]

Wow thats a nice setup Alex I couldn't even try and mount that amp where you did even if I wanted to!lol Wanted to know if you finally got it buttoned down with the wiring of the kit to the Procede yet?

[Alex@AKMotorwerk]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Wow thats a nice setup Alex I couldn't even try and mount that amp where you did even if I wanted to!lol Wanted to know if you finally got it buttoned down with the wiring of the kit to the Procede yet?

wiring is all finished up with the relay ect... just need to mount the nozzle into the stett pipe along with the solenoid and test it out

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by nj323ci

wiring is all finished up with the relay ect... just need to mount the nozzle into the stett pipe along with the solenoid and test it out

so this relay will work totally in conjunction with the Procede map switching and instead of using the remote, you have a on/off button? This is what I would prefer also...So there is no need for the Lebonte safeinjection for me then, I will stick with the SP one if thats the case because the nozzle fittings on the Lebonte one is both on the same side instead of SP being on opposite side which lessen the likelihood of the fuel line to kink up since i am installing it in the same location as you