[UdubBadger]

you punk

[Darkcyd_Turbo]

sorry told the folks i would make an honest effort because this is my last chance to get help with school

[UdubBadger]

yeah yeah I know, I'm not mad... it just sucks that these guys are here on a Wed night when everyone is in the middle of HW for the semester and shit. I don't want to be the only one who shows up ya know?

[Darkcyd_Turbo]

i'd totally go if i didn't have so much crap to do...

[CubanJJ09]

WTF I didn't see this whole calling me ghey thing, there's a statute of limitations on retorting to insults and it seems like it's passed........Curses

[UdubBadger]

youre ghey

[Darkcyd_Turbo]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

WTF I didn't see this whole calling me ghey thing, there's a statute of limitations on retorting to insults and it seems like it's passed........Curses

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

youre ghey

[ksm]

hey, has anyone installed an afe or any other cold air intake yet? This will be my first time and was hoping to get an extra pair of eyes to keep me from blowing up my car....so to speak....any help would be much obliged, and oh yeah, there will be blood (on my end, such a klutz when it comes to all things mechanical), beer, and food stuffs (most likely 'za - Glass Nickel).

[UdubBadger]

yeah several... dude don't be nervous its fricking easy as hell.

[UdubBadger]

I know this isn't for a 335 but it will give you a general overview of what all you'll need to do... http://www.automedia.com/Import_Cold...ht20030901ai/1

[ksm]

thanks ubdub, i'm diving right into it (your link you posted, slow work day)...i also got some instructions from afe (pdf i found online), just a little worried i'll mess up the maf sensor or something stupid.....thanks for the vote of confidence though.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by ksm

thanks ubdub, i'm diving right into it (your link you posted, slow work day)...i also got some instructions from afe (pdf i found online), just a little worried i'll mess up the maf sensor or something stupid.....thanks for the vote of confidence though.

no you'll be fine seriously. My GF could probably do it with instructions.

But let me ask you, why do you want a CAI that isn't fully enclosed nor really in a place that will get any cold air?

[ksm]

well considering i have a stock exhaust i don't expect a whole lot in terms of performance, just hoping for some deeper sounds......

[Darkcyd_Turbo]

should've went with the BMW dci then...and its cheaper. i may have to go dci to run the higher boost maps when install my fmic. talked to terry and he recommended i do also to get the best gains especially at the top end. as for the sound, meh, i wouldn't be able to hear it over the eisenmann anyways. lol

[ksm]

what's the bmw dci and who's Terry? FYI - i have an NA n52 (e90 330xi)

[UdubBadger]

dual cone intake

but still.... I'm a big advocate for enclosed intakes because of the heat extreme engine heat you take in with an open air short ram design (like the injen or AFe).

I would say at least performance wise, you'll get slightly better results with an AFe or K&N drop in filter in your stock airbox than you will with the AFe open air design. You might get a bit of a sound change from the AFe but you might also notice a little drop off in torque in the 1-3k rpm range too.

[ksm]

no shxt?!?!? Well, i haven't opened the box yet, i'll take a look on youtube and see if the sounds are worth the torque drop off ........

[ksm]

Udub, so something like this is not considered enclosed ?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag...4-11012_pr.pdf

again, thanks for letting me bounce all these questions off you guys!

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by ksm

Udub, so something like this is not considered enclosed ?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag...4-11012_pr.pdf

again, thanks for letting me bounce all these questions off you guys!

no, I mean it has a heat shield which is better than NOTHING, but it will still draw in a lot more hot air than your stock box or a fully enclosed aftermarket intake will.

Again, it's totally up to you. If you want sound, it'll give you sound, but if you want performance I'd go with a fully enclosed box.

[ksm]

yeah that makes sense, and that would explain why enclosed aftermarket stuffs are way more expensive than afe cai......well maybe just for this winter and hopefully the scoops will help a little bit over the spring......

[UdubBadger]

yeah you won't feel a big difference in the winter in terms of loss... not here in Wisc anyway, but come summer, even with the scoops you'll notice it big time. The scoops really only work a little bit (like 10% increase in cooler air) at over 60mph.

[Darkcyd_Turbo]

oh shit i didnt know it was it was an n52...nevermind about the dci then lol.

udub is right, you will lose torque with an open element filter but nothing that you will feel on the butt dyno, but the torque you lose down low you gain better response at the top end. That's the main purpose of the open intake. To "draw" more air when needed the most at the top of the rpm range when air intake is most crucial.