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11-25-2007, 09:46 PM | #45 |
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There should be a formula for fuel requirements and the stock fuel system limits should already be known...
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11-25-2007, 10:14 PM | #46 | |
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I am completely aware that this will take time. I didn't say today or tomorrow. I'd prefer consistent long term R&D. I never said that I WOULDN'T upgrade other parts of the car. As I said in other replys, that goes without saying. Shiv, thanks for answering the question straight up. |
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11-26-2007, 04:35 AM | #47 |
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whats the highest proven HP 335i out there at the moment?
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11-26-2007, 09:09 AM | #48 | |
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But to answer your obviously loaded question, I think that by the time someone is able to hit 500whp in the 335i, it will mean much larger exhaust piping (downpipes on back) which means a much louder exhaust note. It will mean drastic changes in timing and fuel which will likely result in a much rougher idle. It will mean changes in turbo size which will mean a much more pronounced lag. And it will definitely mean a decreased reliability in almost every moving part. Like I said in my original post, I know several former Evo owners that took what was a decently comfortable and decently quick car, and modded it so much that although it was blisteringly fast, it was no longer fun to drive on a daily basis. And to me, the Evo is much more "raw" than the BMW is. I believe the 'stealthiness' of the 335i.. the quiet car that can sneak up on a person and blow their doors off, all while being civil and refiend enough to impress your non-car enthusiast wife or co-workers when going out for a nice dinner, and while being comfortable enough for taking the family on a road trip...will be greatly compromised if you quest for 500whp. I think the M3 is more suited for those interested in a track beast that can be tolerated as a daily driver. But it's your car. Dowhatchalike.
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11-26-2007, 09:37 AM | #49 | |
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To answer the guys question, 500 whp can be hit as soon as someone puts a slightly bigger snail into thier car, and tunes it right. Yes it will take alot of tuning and money though. Chris |
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11-26-2007, 10:07 AM | #50 |
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According to this site, we do not even have forged internals. The pistons are magnesium lined cast pistons, which I have zero experience with, so this is nothing more than speculation on what this engine can hold. Why all the "I think this engine can handle 500 rwhp" without providing some technical reasons to why? Look, I am curious too, but I don't know the answers to this question. There are a lot of things from pistons, rings, rods, bolts, that can break and everyone would probably leave your pocket dry. We also don't know if we will need to upgrade fuel pump, injectors, fuel rail, etc. When it comes to power estimates it seems like "we just don't know what this engine can handle" is the only reasonable response.
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11-26-2007, 10:15 AM | #51 |
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i agreed with you.. you need to upgrade either Garette gt2960r (dual) or Gt35rs.. price for those upgrade turbo would be around 2500.
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11-26-2007, 10:16 AM | #52 | |
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check out some of my posted regarding to your inquiring.. check this out http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94024 |
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11-26-2007, 10:18 AM | #53 | |
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Hey I hear you man. Whenever someone says something like "The Supra's engine was a TT inline 6, so that means our engine can make the same power" I laugh inside. Different engines from different times. You dont have to worry about adding power with the 2JZ cause a) you know its limits and b) it was made to be damn near indestructible. No one knows the deal with the N54. Until someone figures out the fuel issue, it's not going to happen.
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11-26-2007, 10:33 AM | #54 | |
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WHAT U CAN DO TO 335I ID DROP BIGGER SIDE ENGINE( M5) BUT WITH ALOT OF MODIFY TO IT, THE M5 HAVE STRONG MATERIAL ON THE ENGINE. YOU CAN HAVE IT BORE AND PISTON MODIFY WITHOUT ANY ISSUE. FUEL MAKE ALOT OF DIFFERENT. HOWEVER IT IS ONLY SOFTWARE CONTROL. IF YOU ARE USING NOS, YOU ALSO CHANGE FUEL SYSTEM AND OTHER STUFFS. I WOULD DO CUSTOM UPGRADE ON TURBO. HOWEVER, I M WAITTING FOR VISHNU TO TUNE THEIR MAP FOR TURBO UGPRADE .. |
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11-26-2007, 10:34 AM | #55 | |
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WHAT U CAN DO TO 335I ID DROP BIGGER SIDE ENGINE( M5) BUT WITH ALOT OF MODIFY TO IT, THE M5 HAVE STRONG MATERIAL ON THE ENGINE. YOU CAN HAVE IT BORE AND PISTON MODIFY WITHOUT ANY ISSUE. FUEL MAKE ALOT OF DIFFERENT. HOWEVER IT IS ONLY SOFTWARE CONTROL. IF YOU ARE USING NOS, YOU ALSO CHANGE FUEL SYSTEM AND OTHER STUFFS. I WOULD DO CUSTOM UPGRADE ON TURBO. HOWEVER, I M WAITTING FOR VISHNU TO TUNE THEIR MAP FOR TURBO UGPRADE .. |
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11-26-2007, 10:37 AM | #56 | |
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Seriously though, I'm not doing anything turbo changes till the warranty runs out if that. Everything about this car costs too much to be playing with your warranty.
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11-26-2007, 10:39 AM | #57 |
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sorry ... i m lazy to take it out.. mah bad.. i did not mean to scare u dude. damn scary cat
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11-26-2007, 10:40 AM | #58 |
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i would agreed with you..
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can anyone answer this??? the question quoted also at what point is a bigger I/C needed? how much boost can the stock H/G and piston and rods take? Carlos
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11-26-2007, 12:05 PM | #65 |
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That is fantastic, hopefully with V2/93 octane, and otherwise stuck we will be at 400whp :confuse d0068:
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11-26-2007, 12:08 PM | #66 |
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in california we dont have 96 octane.. .. suck !!!
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