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      02-08-2011, 03:02 PM   #67
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washer fluid is pretty much meth and distilled water with blue dye. I ran the cheap blue washer fluid in my eclipse and my supra's meth injection systems for years.

yes some washerfluid tho may have other additives. You can use meth/water as washerfluid but the otherway around only works if there are no additives.
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Hi Michael,
We aren't using the old small rotary style aquamist pump as they aren't suitable for high flow applications. So we are using the bulletproof Shurflow unit that all the meth kits use. At this point, the whole kit will only be available though us. It will come pre-assembled and ready to bolt-on and plug into the Procede. We will also have a retrofit kit available for those who want to convert their current methanol kit over to the new style. They would basically retain their pump, nozzle(s) and bottle location. But get the injector and flow meter. And the plug-in harness for the Procede.

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shiv, would the old pump (that we purchased from you) be good enough for high flow applications?
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yes some washerfluid tho may have other additives. You can use meth/water as washerfluid but the otherway around only works if there are no additives.
yes, you do not want to use the stuff with bug remover in it. just read the label or look up the MSD sheet. Most stuff is between 33-45% meth. 1 gallon splash -25 washer fluid (41% meth) and 4 1/2 cups (36oz.) 100% meth and your right at 57% meth by volume or 48% meth by weight.
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shiv, would the old pump (that we purchased from you) be good enough for high flow applications?
Yes, we are still using that same exact pump for the new design. No problem there.

I'll also have final pics, pricing and availability in a few days. Just waiting on some parts to be machined. I'll even have an installation video posted soon. It's ridiculously easy to install and remove. Something that can easily be done at a gas station, on the way to the dealership. FWIW, I installed a Procede, DCI and new Meth kit in our car in under 15 minutes with no rushing. Not needing to mount any bottles, electronics or any wires/lines under the car is a HUGE convenience.

Yes, some people have use washer fluid for injection. While it does contain methanol, it also contains a bunch of detergents which aren't good to run through your engine. So stick with off-the-shelf Boost Juice or mix your own meth/water cocktail instead.

Yes, it will work on a 135. Exactly the same installation. I've already test fitted our prototype kit in both our 335 n54 and 135 n55.

We will give the option of using our special-made COMPLETE charge pipe (replacing the entire pipe from throttle body to upper IC pipe) or just adapting their own charge pipe to work. If you choose to do the latter, you will need to install 3 bungs. Two for the nozzles and one from the boost activation switch. The injectors mount close to the elbow portion of the charge pipe giving plenty of time for vaporization.

And btw, we are now logging CAN liter/hour fuel consumption with the Procede. Makes things like this too easy

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Yes, we are still using that same exact pump for the new design. No problem there.

I'll also have final pics, pricing and availability in a few days. Just waiting on some parts to be machined. I'll even have an installation video posted soon. It's ridiculously easy to install and remove. Something that can easily be done at a gas station, on the way to the dealership. FWIW, I installed a Procede, DCI and new Meth kit in our car in under 15 minutes with no rushing. Not needing to mount any bottles, electronics or any wires/lines under the car is a HUGE convenience.

Yes, some people have use washer fluid for injection. While it does contain methanol, it also contains a bunch of detergents which aren't good to run through your engine. So stick with off-the-shelf Boost Juice or mix your own meth/water cocktail instead.

Yes, it will work on a 135. Exactly the same installation. I've already test fitted our prototype kit in both our 335 n54 and 135 n55.

We will give the option of using our special-made COMPLETE charge pipe (replacing the entire pipe from throttle body to upper IC pipe) or just adapting their own charge pipe to work. If you choose to do the latter, you will need to install 3 bungs. Two for the nozzles and one from the boost activation switch. The injectors mount close to the elbow portion of the charge pipe giving plenty of time for vaporization.

And btw, we are now logging CAN liter/hour fuel consumption with the Procede. Makes things like this too easy

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Alright I cal dibs on the first n55 unit.
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I have Dinan CAI with the relocated power steering reservior, guess that precludes this?
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It looks like the Dinan CAI won't work unless you relocate the actual pump somewhere else like behind the bumper. I think it can be done but its custom work.

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I have Dinan CAI with the relocated power steering reservior, guess that precludes this?
My car has the AR design catch can mounted on the power steering bracket, so I thought I was in trouble too, but now that shiv says I can retain the old pump and bottle location I think I can make this work. From the looks of it, the rest of the setup really isn't that big.
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Please take a pic of the charge pipe...I am quite mad to the fact that I have to change my setup again
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Please take a pic of the charge pipe...I am quite mad to the fact that I have to change my setup again
You probably don't want to change your set up since the new methanol feature uses the same digital output that we use for the nitrous window switch. So if nitrous is in your future, this methanol hardware isn't for you
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Interesting. Just when you think you are done modding in one area here comes another project. Glad it's an easy install. Looking forward to more install details.
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Alright I cal dibs on the first n55 unit.
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You probably don't want to change your set up since the new methanol feature uses the same digital output that we use for the nitrous window switch. So if nitrous is in your future, this methanol hardware isn't for you
But we can still use another system like the nitrous express correct? I was planning on adding a fuel n express kit with its own controller and windo switch.
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shiv will this new setup work just using an M10 nozzel or a m10 and an m7? I would like to see this new intake pipe as well.
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But we can still use another system like the nitrous express correct? I was planning on adding a fuel n express kit with its own controller and windo switch.
Yes you can still use a third party nitrous control system. Personally, I'd rather go with upgraded turbo (when available for n55). But to each his own

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shiv will this new setup work just using an M10 nozzel or a m10 and an m7? I would like to see this new intake pipe as well.
I should have pics of the new pipe later this week. You can run either a single or dual nozzle setup. Doesn't matter. Although it makes sense to size the total nozzle flow to something that represents your needs. Using an m10 AND an M7 is pretty generous. But even that wont be a problem with the fixed pressure system. Even at low DC%, the meth will atomize nicely.

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Same here
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It looks like the Dinan CAI won't work unless you relocate the actual pump somewhere else like behind the bumper. I think it can be done but its custom work.
I also have the Dinan CAI. I hope Shiv offers a solution that will work for us. This system sounds fantastic.
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Hi guys,
I've not test fit our new meth kit with either the Dinan or Injen intakes. So I have no idea
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