Why are exhaust so expensive?

Panoz · 10-10-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by possible335i2008

I can understand how maybe some full systems could cost close to 1000$ but hell most cat-backs for our cars cost well over that, there has to be better options for those of us who want a nice exhaust note without paying whacky money for it. I mean the cost to benefit ratio sucks...6-8 hp for 1000$ my jb3 cost 800 and I got 60+ hp to the wheels. Mufflers and piping cannot be that expensive, there need to be some 600-700 dollar options out there.

We are VICTIMS thats why they are expensive. The companies are benefitted from our passion to make our cars look & sound better.
The actual cost of mufflers cant be more than 100-200$.

possible335i2008 · 10-10-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Panoz

We are VICTIMS thats why they are expensive. The companies are benefitted from our passion to make our cars look & sound better.
The actual cost of mufflers cant be more than 100-200$.

+1
Exactly but we can dictate the prices that we are willing to pay for items, we just need to be vocal about the cost of certain items, either way some company needs to step it up and cut the costs and give us better options on the cost of exhaust...yes we drive expensive cars but the reason most us can drive them is because we have been smart and thifty with investments and everyday life. Why should that change with perfomance parts?

Panoz · 10-10-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by possible335i2008

...yes we drive expensive cars but the reason most us can drive them is because we have been smart and thifty with investments and everyday life. Why should that change with perfomance parts?

Cause many of us are very passionate on our cars (like the kids with their toys) and we pay every penny needed.

Makushr1 · 10-10-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Panoz

We are VICTIMS thats why they are expensive. The companies are benefitted from our passion to make our cars look & sound better.
The actual cost of mufflers cant be more than 100-200$.

+1

I can understand some exhausts being pricy if they come from Europe, but US made stuff shouldn't be that much. When I got my car, I assumed $800-$1k would be the highend. In all reality, thats the low end...

cn555ic · 10-10-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Panoz

Cause many of us are very passionate on our cars (like the kids with their toys) and we pay every penny needed.

Thats the reason why companies can over charge anything..As long as it gets a favorable critique, it will sell regardless of the price....If an OP feels its too pricey, there will be countless others that wouldn't care because their mod whores...Demand for the fanatics of cars out weigh the ones that just want to drive thier cars stock!!!

jpsimon · 10-10-2008, 09:54 AM

boohoo

is anyone else finding this thread as hillarious as I am?

Makushr1 · 10-10-2008, 10:07 AM

Supply and Demand. Stop buying their products and they will have to drop the price. Econ 101.

kptaylor · 10-10-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by possible335i2008

totally understand the concept of the dual exhaust, I have actually worked on and installed stuff on my car so have that down, either way didn't think that this thread would bring out a bunch of smart asses just though maybe some of the manufacturers would see the need for a cheaper exhaust option but as it seems why do they?

How was my response smart ass? We have full dual exhaust, from the turbo's back. If you come from a WRX, it's a single from the turbo back. Multiply that exhaust price by two and you'll see the BMW exhaust isn't that expensive.

astris · 10-10-2008, 11:41 AM

Ok, just for the "exhaust should be under $1000 crowd," I give you the E46 M3 iconel titanium exhaust from Dixis...

http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=3833

All yours for $20,475.00.

335ievo · 10-10-2008, 04:45 PM

Well I would say that some exhaust systems are worth it because maybe its made from high quality material such as titanium or the construction of it like the welds are flawless.

But the main reason why I think our bmw exhaust are more expensive is because the manufacturers think, "hey if they paid 50k for the car, they must have money to pay for a 2g exhaust." I came from JDM cars and the exhausts are way under 1g, unless its full titanium and from a well respected JDM company. The quality was good too. Don't get me wrong though...One thing I learned from modding up my cars ever since I can remember is...If you got a nice car, don't put crap parts on it because its cheap to buy. You paid for $50,000 car so you should be high quality parts on it.

But IMHO, since I am more of a "GO" rather than "SHOW" person and as far as my 335i is concerned, an exhaust is something I would rather go custom because gains aren't worth the money. But other than exhaust, all my other modifications to the car are going to be high quality functional parts. But thats just my opinion...you might have different preferences or wants...so do you want you want to do!

Accel Junky · 10-10-2008, 07:31 PM

I personally think the prices are laughable and the markup out of this world. I'll be having a system fabbed or just going dp's.

thegeneral101 · 10-10-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by astris

I see this is your first European car. Welcome.

+1 and good thing he doesn't have an M5...he would really be complaining

Morpheus · 10-10-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by astris

Ok, just for the "exhaust should be under $1000 crowd," I give you the E46 M3 iconel titanium exhaust from Dixis...

http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=3833

All yours for $20,475.00.

what? no sound byte?

possible335i2008 · 10-10-2008, 10:46 PM

this thread has gone in the wrong direction, I am talking about most of the exhaust systems that are actually just a MUFFLER WITH PIPE EXTENSIONS...Look I understand that everyone is proud of whatever exhaust they have purchased it just seemed that alot of the exhaust systems seem over priced...I guess that my opinion is that of the minority..and I guess I am screwed because I will probably be buying an M5 next year

Dr_Dirt · 10-11-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by astris

Ok, just for the "exhaust should be under $1000 crowd," I give you the E46 M3 iconel titanium exhaust from Dixis...

http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=3833

All yours for $20,475.00.

I can understand the high price but it looks like the pipe on the right side is hanging low and is probably viewable from the rear.

mwahlert · 10-11-2008, 09:58 AM

its called bmw tax.

10-10-2008, 09:54 AM	#28
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astris Major 617 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: M4 ZCP Individual Mintgruen Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (8)	Ok, just for the "exhaust should be under $1000 crowd," I give you the E46 M3 iconel titanium exhaust from Dixis... http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=3833 All yours for $20,475.00.
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335ievo Your'e gonna learrrrrrnn tooooday 39 Rep 595 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 328i M Sport EB Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATL, Georgia iTrader: (1)	Well I would say that some exhaust systems are worth it because maybe its made from high quality material such as titanium or the construction of it like the welds are flawless. But the main reason why I think our bmw exhaust are more expensive is because the manufacturers think, "hey if they paid 50k for the car, they must have money to pay for a 2g exhaust." I came from JDM cars and the exhausts are way under 1g, unless its full titanium and from a well respected JDM company. The quality was good too. Don't get me wrong though...One thing I learned from modding up my cars ever since I can remember is...If you got a nice car, don't put crap parts on it because its cheap to buy. You paid for $50,000 car so you should be high quality parts on it. But IMHO, since I am more of a "GO" rather than "SHOW" person and as far as my 335i is concerned, an exhaust is something I would rather go custom because gains aren't worth the money. But other than exhaust, all my other modifications to the car are going to be high quality functional parts. But thats just my opinion...you might have different preferences or wants...so do you want you want to do! __________________ 2013 BMW 328i MSport F30 - Estoril Blue "Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open." James Dewar
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possible335i2008 Major 167 Rep 1,222 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: united states iTrader: (10)	this thread has gone in the wrong direction, I am talking about most of the exhaust systems that are actually just a MUFFLER WITH PIPE EXTENSIONS...Look I understand that everyone is proud of whatever exhaust they have purchased it just seemed that alot of the exhaust systems seem over priced...I guess that my opinion is that of the minority..and I guess I am screwed because I will probably be buying an M5 next year
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