[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

SBC you are fine for age. At MDTC I imagine your tyres will suffer. In addition to your brake pads. I will most likely have my semi slicks on when we do whatever it is using my track rims (which may turn out to be my stockies if they don't sell lol)
I will also be changing to a hard compound brake pad before the event (DIY in the garage most likely)

I am sorry if I have confused anyone lol.

Let's keep this thread on topic:

MDTC March 17th with Luffy - $275

I will create another thread for when I book into a skidpan day.

Guran, I'm doing SOTS too, was going to go in April on a weekday sometime, create another thread for that when you have settled on a date.

[cruvon]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

SBC you are fine for age. At MDTC I imagine your tyres will suffer. In addition to your brake pads. I will most likely have my semi slicks on when we do whatever it is using my track rims (which may turn out to be my stockies if they don't sell lol)
I will also be changing to a hard compound brake pad before the event (DIY in the garage most likely)

I am sorry if I have confused anyone lol.

Let's keep this thread on topic:

MDTC March 17th with Luffy - $275

I will create another thread for when I book into a skidpan day.

Guran, I'm doing SOTS too, was going to go in April on a weekday sometime, create another thread for that when you have settled on a date.

Thanks Guran and bmroxm5 for the added insight and options you'll have made open to us, look forward to exercising those too...sorry if I sounded a bit overzealous, just trying to get us back on deciding about one out of so many attractive options.

[cruvon]

oky guys, what do we need to get our cars track ready?..Someone suggested doing a oil change...I have about 2k left on my rear pads, is it fine to track those before I replace them? Wheels I have my stock 16"s which am happy to track on and have quite a bit of tread on them. Anything else we need to know or do?

[Samoht]

Love to go, a couple of Questions for those thats been there and have done it b4, I know they are very subjective questions and will depend on driving style, but an approximation or general answer will be good.

i) will our brakes be fried?? i.e will we use up say 30% of our pads and 20% of our rotors, i dont want to pre-maturely end their lives.

ii) If say I want to go at a reasonable pace 80-140kms max.... is this still for me?

[WOPALX]

Originally Posted by cruvon

oky guys, what do we need to get our cars track ready?..Someone suggested doing a oil change...I have about 2k left on my rear pads, is it fine to track those before I replace them? Wheels I have my stock 16"s which am happy to track on and have quite a bit of tread on them. Anything else we need to know or do?

I'd suggest an oil change prior & if your brakes are worn replace them.

Originally Posted by Samoht

Love to go, a couple of Questions for those thats been there and have done it b4, I know they are very subjective questions and will depend on driving style, but an approximation or general answer will be good.

i) will our brakes be fried?? i.e will we use up say 30% of our pads and 20% of our rotors, i dont want to pre-maturely end their lives.

ii) If say I want to go at a reasonable pace 80-140kms max.... is this still for me?

Yes you will add wear and tear to your car. I've done 10 track day type events in my car over the past 3 years and have replaced pads / rotors once in 80K, mind you ive also been through 8 sets of rear tyres too......

I do however use track pads for the day only and then return to the stockers afterwards.

The AIM of any training day is to drive within your comfort level, go as fast as your comfortable with.

[WOPALX]

Please add yourselves to the list gang.


1) SBC (17th)........................Facility Preference: MDTC
2) MO3 (9th or 17th)......... Facility Preference:
3) bmroxm5 (17th)....... Facility Preference:
4) WOPALX (9th or 17th)....... Facility Preference: MDTC
5) johynnydad???...... Facility Preference:
6) cruvon (9th or 17th)...... Facility Preference: Event 2. MDTC
7) Jeef Beef....... Facility Preference:
8) bmroxm5's friend... Facility Preference:
9) Taymaishu...... Facility Preference:
10) chylld (9th or 17th)....... Facility Preference: Event 2. MDTC
11) bmroxm5's other friend (17) Facility Preference:

[cruvon]

Originally Posted by WOPALX

I'd suggest an oil change prior & if your brakes are worn replace them.



Yes you will add wear and tear to your car. I've done 10 track day type events in my car over the past 3 years and have replaced pads / rotors once in 80K, mind you ive also been through 8 sets of rear tyres too......

I do however use track pads for the day only and then return to the stockers afterwards.

The AIM of any training day is to drive within your comfort level, go as fast as your comfortable with.

Thanks for the tips WOPALX. Few more novice questions. Are track pads cheaper than normal pads and what are their advantages or is it just ok to let the stock pads wear out if they cost the same? Any suggested brands?
Do you replace the pads by yourself or at a shop? (or maybe I could just go easy and get Steve to do this)
Also do you use run flats or non run flats as your prefered tyres and if for example I changed wheels from road 19"s to track 16"s for a track day would the wheels require rebalancing everytime I change them over?

[cruvon]

Some nice beginner TRACK threads
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=track+basics

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=track+basics


http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=track+basics

[WOPALX]

Track pads cost wise I would think are going to be more expensive. They bite harder when warm and dissipate heat faster so are better for track use. That said they squeal like a motherf**ker hence why I only use them for track days.

I don't do my own brakes so will most likely get Steve to do them for me. Cost wise I guess with the cost of installing them and then taking them off if your not hell bent on hot lapping your car then the stokers should be okay.

I just use my street tires, if I was tracking more often I'd buy a second set of wheels and tires.

FYI for a novice I'd suggest just doing an oil change. Track pads, track tires etc while nice to have are probably overkill since your there to learn in a safe environment.

Originally Posted by cruvon

Thanks for the tips WOPALX. Few more novice questions. Are track pads cheaper than normal pads and what are their advantages or is it just ok to let the stock pads wear out if they cost the same? Any suggested brands?
Do you replace the pads by yourself or at a shop? (or maybe I could just go easy and get Steve to do this)
Also do you use run flats or non run flats as your prefered tyres and if for example I changed wheels from road 19"s to track 16"s for a track day would the wheels require rebalancing everytime I change them over?

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

I'm going with my 'spare' set of wheels/tyres just because I have them available to me, plus the handling on the 17s will be slightly better.

Brakes wise, you don't need to change pads and yes tracking will wear them down - but street pads after a few repeated hard stops are going to start feeling rather soft and mushy. I'm going to change pads to 'track pads' just because I don't think the cost is that much more, particularly when you consider you are prolonging the life of your street pads AND they will work a lot better in the track environment.

No need to worry about 'rebalancing' wheels. It's good to do, but not necessary.

[cruvon]

Thanks WOPALX, bmroxm5, also out of curiosity, do we use DS mode on the track or the manual steptronic mode?

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by cruvon

Thanks WOPALX, bmroxm5, also out of curiosity, do we use DS mode on the track or the manual steptronic mode?

dunno I've never tracked an auto :S

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

This list is now only for the MDTC day with Luffy, MARCH 17, $275 PP
1) SBC
2) MO3
3) bmroxm5
4) WOPALX
5) johynnydad (awaiting confirmation
6) cruvon
7) Jeef Beef (awaiting confirmation
8) bmroxm5's friend
9) Taymaishu
10) chylld
11) bmroxm5's other friend

We now have roughly 11 people, just a few more ...

[johnnydad]

Last track day I did at Wakefield was damp, drying, did 6 sessions. The brake wear indicator went down 5000km at the front and 3000km at the rear. If this is vaguely accurate, then I suppose that's 5-10% of the pad life per track day.

OEM pads seem to cope fine at Wakefield and Marulan and I wouldn't overly stress about changing pads if you are there for fun as opposed to maximum lap times/learning - maybe EC would be more demanding.

[johnnydad]

Oh, and manual mode is occasionally disobedient, changing up too early and not changing down when you ask. Spotting the gear indicator is strangely difficult when looking intently at the road.

The Sport auto mode actually does 95% of what you need, I'm afraid to say, holding to redline and changing down aggressively once it realises you are on a track.

Finally, can't commit to MTDC in March at present.

[cruvon]

Originally Posted by johnnydad

Oh, and manual mode is occasionally disobedient, changing up too early and not changing down when you ask. Spotting the gear indicator is strangely difficult when looking intently at the road.

The Sport auto mode actually does 95% of what you need, I'm afraid to say, holding to redline and changing down aggressively once it realises you are on a track.

Finally, can't commit to MTDC in March at present.

Thanks for the info johnnydad. Btw was wondering what the baby racer in your signature is till I looked up some toys for my baby son, thinking of getting him one but guess he'll have to wait another 9 months to use it or drive underage since says from 1 1/2 years.

[WOPALX]

This list is now only for the MDTC day with Luffy, MARCH 17, $275 PP

1) SBC
2) MO3
3) bmroxm5
4) WOPALX
5) cruvon
6) Jeef Beef (awaiting confirmation
7) bmroxm5's friend
8) Taymaishu
9) chylld
10) bmroxm5's other friend

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Anyone else??

Chris.G?
sydneyman?
Rubicon (bit of a trek for you I know)
bcoz?
nav12c?
SharifE?
Sparky66?
GAVE90?

[sbce90]

chris g and the X5 OOOO YEAH LOL

[saferisk]

You guys are soo lucky to have such strong support for an awesome event, here in Melbourne we're struggling just to get a damn meet-up!

[SharifE]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

Anyone else??

Chris.G?
sydneyman?
Rubicon (bit of a trek for you I know)
bcoz?
nav12c?
SharifE?
Sparky66?
GAVE90?

Luv to go guys.
Flat out with work and kids.

[MO3]

Originally Posted by saferisk

You guys are soo lucky to have such strong support for an awesome event, here in Melbourne we're struggling just to get a damn meet-up!

It's because 90% of the "Melbournians" drive Holdens.